formal 2nd person plural pronoun (Japanese)

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Like a number of other East Asian languages, Japanese uses a complex system of honorifics, i.e. a system where a number of different levels of politeness are expressed in language via words, word forms or grammatical constructs. These can range from addressing someone or referring to someone with contempt (very informal) to expressing the highest level of reference (as used in addressing or referring to God) or any number of levels in-between.

One way Japanese shows different degree of politeness is through the choice of a formal plural suffix to the second person pronoun (“you” and its various forms) as shown here in the widely-used Japanese Shinkaiyaku (新改訳) Bible of 2017. In these verses, anata-gata (あなたがた) is used, combining the second person pronoun anata and the plural suffix -gata to create a formal plural pronoun (“you” [plural] in English).

(Source: S. E. Doi, see also S. E. Doi in Journal of Translation, 18/2022, p. 37ff. )

Translation commentary on John 1:51

And he said to them is literally “And he says to him.” There is no problem in taking the present tense (“he says”) as the equivalent of a past tense (he said); the present is often used with this force in a narrative context. Good News Translation translates “to him” as to them to indicate to the English reader that the pronoun you (in I am telling you the truth) is plural in Greek, a fact which otherwise may be missed by the English reader. Some translations even omit “to him” so that the reader will not be led to think that Jesus was speaking only to Nathanael (Jerusalem Bible “and then he added”; New English Bible “then he added”). New American Bible handles this clause precisely as Good News Translation does (“he went on to tell them”).

I am telling you the truth is literally “Amen, amen, I say to you.” In traditional English translations this statement is generally rendered “Truly, truly, I say to you” (Revised Standard Version, for example). Only in the Gospel of John is the double “Amen” used, and here it occurs some twenty-five times. The Synoptic Gospels generally have either the simple statement “I say to you” or “Amen, I say to you.” In the Gospel of John this expression seems to serve a two-fold purpose: (1) it emphasizes the words of Jesus which follow; (2) it confirms the truth of what Jesus says. Needless to say, this expression appears in a variety of ways in modern translations (New English Bible “in truth, in very truth I tell you”; New American Bible “I solemnly assure you”; Jerusalem Bible “I tell you most solemnly”).

In some languages traditional renderings of “Truly, truly, I say to you” are misleading, since they can be interpreted as meaning merely “I am really talking to you.” Even a literal translation of I am telling you the truth can be misleading, since it is not always evident that the expression the truth refers to what is to follow. Therefore, in some languages one must say “What I am going to tell you is the truth.” But this kind of expression may be awkward, and it may be better to connect the phrase with the statement whose truth it is intended to emphasize, for example, “you will certainly see the heaven open….” In other languages a declaration of the truth of some statement is more likely to follow than to precede. In this case one may translate “You will see heaven open and God’s angels going up and own on the Son of man. This will certainly come true.”

Before the words you will see heaven open some ancient manuscripts have from “now on.” This is apparently a scribal error introduced from Matthew 26.64.

The words of Jesus in this verse are an obvious allusion to Genesis 28.12, the account of Jacob’s dream, but in this verse the Son of Man takes the place of Jacob’s ladder.

“Son of Man” is one of the most problematic of all New Testament phrases both to interpret and to translate. Except for its use in Acts 7.56, it is confined solely to the Gospels, where it is used only by Jesus himself as a self-designation, never by another person in reference to him, except, perhaps in Mark 2.10. In the Synoptic Gospels the title is used by our Lord in three ways: (1) as a reference to his earthly life, (2) to his suffering and death, and (3) to his exaltation and glorification. These meanings are closely related, and the first two are essentially synonymous. All three have in common the basic emphasis that “the Son of Man” is the one whom God has appointed to speak and act with divine authority. It is true that “the Son of Man” has accepted the limitations of human existence, and that he is misunderstood and rejected by men, but he is nevertheless the one who speaks and acts with God’s own authority. This meaning also is the basic understanding of “the Son of Man” in John’s Gospel: He has his origin in heaven (6.27,33), and he will return again to his place of glory (6.62) by way of the cross (3.14; 8.28; 12.23,34; 13.31). Accordingly, when this title is translated, some phrase should be selected that suggests at once the divine origin and authority of “the Son of Man.”

For the reader of English who does not have the theological training, “Son of Man” is generally either a zero term, or else it is misunderstood as a reference to Jesus’ human nature. It is unfortunate that English translations have not contributed something more dynamic toward the understanding of this most important term.

It is perhaps the parallelism between the two phrases “Son of God” and “Son of Man” which has tended to preserve the form “Son of Man,” even though it has relatively little significance for many readers. It is possible to insist that the focus upon Jesus’ acquired humanity is indirectly an emphasis upon his divine origin, but for most readers of the Gospels this fact is hardly recognizable. Therefore, in any translation of the Scriptures which preserves a more or less literal rendering of “Son of Man,” it is important to supply a note which will explain some of the historical and cultural background of this title.

The rendering of the phrase Son of Man into other languages poses a number of problems. First, the choice of such a phrase as “the Son of a man” causes complications, since it seems to deny the virgin birth. In order to avoid this complication, translators often use for Man a term which more or less designates “mankind”; but it is almost impossible to conceive of how Jesus could be called “the Son of mankind.” As a result, some translators use a phrase which renders Son of man “one who is (or “has become”) truly man.” This focus upon Jesus’ humanity is not a denial of his deity, but simply an indirect emphasis on his divine origin. Because it is often difficult to see how such an expression can also suggest deity, some translators use the expression “he who has become truly man.” This type of expression is particularly important in languages which have two words for “son,” one designating the son of a male, and the other, the son of a female. That is to say, when one speaks of a son as the son of his father, one term is used, but when one speaks of him as the son of his mother, the other term is employed. Obviously, to translate the expression Son of man by a term which would specify Jesus as the son of a male would be a complete denial of the virgin birth. It is therefore essential that some other type of expression be employed.

Going up and coming down on the Son of Man (an allusion to the dream of Jacob in which he sees the ladder extended between heaven and earth) can present a number of difficulties. It might seem to some readers that the Son of Man is merely some giant on which angels climb up and down. In order to show clearly that the meaning here is symbolic, some translations add the phrase “as it were.” Even in the use of the terms going up and coming down, one must be careful to avoid making the Son of Man into a sort of elevator. If one chooses terms which are too specific, the whole figure becomes absurd.

Quoted with permission from Newman, Barclay M. and Nida, Eugene A. A Handbook on the Gospel of John. (UBS Handbook Series). New York: UBS, 1980. For this and other handbooks for translators see here .

SIL Translator’s Notes on John 1:51

1:51a

Then He declared: This phrase indicates that Jesus continued talking to Nathanael.

Truly, truly, I tell you: The phrase that the Berean Standard Bible translates as Truly, truly, I tell you can also be translated as “Very truly, I tell you,” as in the New Revised Standard Version. Jesus often used this phrase to introduce a statement that he wanted to emphasize. It indicates that the statement was important and completely reliable, and that people should listen carefully to it. Sometimes it introduces a serious warning or something the speaker predicts. Here it introduces a promise.

In some languages you may need to translate the phrase in different ways in different contexts. Do not translate in a way that implies that Jesus had not been telling the truth at other times.

Here are some ways that English translations have translated the phrase in this context:

In all truth I tell you (New Jerusalem Bible)
-or-
I am telling you the truth (Good News Translation)
-or-
I tell you for certain that… (Contemporary English Version)

you: The personal pronoun you is plural here. Jesus was speaking to the entire group of disciples gathered there, not just to Nathanael.

1:51b–c

1:51b–c is similar to the dream recorded in Genesis 28:12. In his dream the patriarch Jacob saw a ladder leading up to heaven and God’s angels ascending (going up) to and descending (going down) from heaven. Read the passage in Genesis before translating this verse. You may want to use similar words in both passages in order to help readers make the connection.

1:51b

you will all see heaven open: The pronoun you is plural here also. The phrase will…see heaven open is a figure of speech. Jesus was indicating that the disciples would receive a revelation from God. It would be like seeing into the spiritual world. See also Acts 7:56 and Revelation 4:1, where the same expression appears. If a literal translation does not give the correct meaning, you may need to say something like this:

it will look like heaven opens
-or-
it will be for you like heaven opening up

heaven: The word heaven in this context refers to the spiritual world, where God lives. People understood heaven to be above the earth

1:51c

the angels of God ascending and descending on the Son of Man: Verse 1:51c tells what the revelation from God would be: the Son of Man will link or connect heaven and earth. The whole clause is a metaphor. Angels would not literally walk on Jesus (the Son of Man). But God’s truth would be revealed through Jesus because he is the connection between heaven and earth. In some languages you may need to say where the angels ascend (go up) and descend (go down). For example:

on the Son of Man the angels of God will ascend ⌊to heaven⌋ and descend ⌊to earth

the angels of God: The Greek word that the Berean Standard Bible translates as angels means “messengers.” It refers here to spirit beings who serve God. Here are some ways to translate this phrase:

Using a descriptive word or phrase. For example:

messengers from God
-or-

good/holy⌋ spirit-beings sent from God

Using a local term that fits the biblical meaning.

In some areas the churches may already use a borrowed term or a transliterated word for “angel.” Be sure that this term fits the biblical meaning. You may need to indicate the correct meaning in some way. For example:

an angelos messenger from God
-or-
a sacred angelos spirit

Be sure that your term for “angel” is different from your terms for “prophet” and “apostle.” See angel 1. in Key Biblical Terms.

on the Son of Man: There are two ways to interpret the Greek phrase that the Berean Standard Bible translates as on the Son of Man :

(1) it indicates that the Son of Man replaces the ladder in Jacob’s dream. For example:

on the Son of Man, the one who is the stairway between heaven and earth (New Living Translation (2004))

(New Living Translation (2004), probably New Jerusalem Bible, Contemporary English Version note)

(2) it indicates that the Son of Man replaces Jacob in the dream. For example:

to the Son of Man (God’s Word)

(God’s Word)

Most English translations translate literally and say on or “upon” the Son of Man. These translations can be considered ambiguous. And that is a good option. But if you need to choose, it is recommended that you follow interpretation (1), which agrees with many commentators.

the Son of Man: The Greek phrase that the Berean Standard Bible translates as the Son of Man is more literally “the Son of the human/person.” Jesus was referring to himself. He used this title to imply two things:

(a) He was a true human being, and he was a representative for all people.

(b) He came from God and had authority from God.

Try to use an expression that implies both meanings. Here are some possible translations:

the Human-born
-or-
the Man from God/Heaven
-or-
the Representative of Mankind

Translators have also used expressions that are more literal. These more literal expressions may be suitable where readers are familiar with a literal title in another translation.

In some languages you may need to use a form like “I” or “me” to indicate that Jesus was referring to himself. For example:

me, the Son of Man
-or-

I who became man/human

See Son of Man in Key Biblical Terms.

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