disciple

The Greek that is often translated as “disciple” in English typically follows three types of translation: (1) those which employ a verb ‘to learn’ or ‘to be taught’, (2) those which involve an additional factor of following, or accompaniment, often in the sense of apprenticeship, and (3) those which imply imitation of the teacher.

Following are some examples (click or tap for details):

  • Ngäbere: “word searcher”
  • Yaka: “one who learned from Jesus”
  • Navajo (Dinė), Western Highland Purepecha, Tepeuxila Cuicatec, Lacandon: “one who learned”
  • San Miguel El Grande Mixtec: “one who studied with Jesus”
  • Northern Grebo: “one Jesus taught”
  • Toraja-Sa’dan: “child (i.e., follower) of the master”
  • Indonesian: “pupil” (also used in many Slavic languages, including Russian [ученик], Bulgarian [учени́к], Ukrainian [учень], or Polish [uczeń] — source: Paul Amara)
  • Central Mazahua: “companion whom Jesus taught”
  • Kipsigis, Loma, Copainalá Zoque: “apprentice” (implying continued association and learning)
  • Cashibo-Cacataibo: “one who followed Jesus”
  • Huautla Mazatec: “his people” (essentially his followers and is the political adherents of a leader)
  • Highland Puebla Nahuatl: based on the root of “to imitate” (source for this and all above: Bratcher / Nida)
  • Chol: “learner” (source: Larson 1998, p. 107)
  • Waorani: “one who lives following Jesus” (source: Wallis 1973, p. 39)
  • Ojitlán Chinantec: “learner” (Source: M. Larson / B. Moore in Notes on Translation February 1970, p. 1-125.)
  • Javanese: “pupil” or “companion” (“a borrowing from Arabic that is a technical term for Mohammed’s close associates”)
  • German: Jünger or “younger one” (source for this and one above: Reiling / Swellengrebel)
  • German New Testament translation by Berger / Nord (publ. 1999): Jüngerinnen und Jünger or “female and male disciples.” Note that Berger/Nord only use that translation in many cases in the gospel of Luke, “because especially according to Luke (see 8:13), women were part of the extended circle of disciples” (see p. 452 and looked up at his disciples).
  • Noongar: ngooldjara-kambarna or “friend-follow” (source: Warda-Kwabba Luke-Ang)
  • French 1985 translation by Chouraqui: adept or “adept” (as in a person who is skilled or proficient at something). Watson (2023, p. 48ff.) explains (click or tap here to see more):

    [Chouraqui] uses the noun “adept,” which is as uncommon in French as it is in English. It’s an evocative choice on several levels. First, linguistically, it derives — via the term adeptus — from the Latin verb adipiscor, “to arrive at; to reach; to attain something by effort or striving.” It suggests those who have successfully reached the goal of their searching, and implies a certain struggle or process of learning that has been gradually overcome. But it’s also a term with a very particular history: in the Middle Ages, “adept” was used in the world of alchemy, to describe those who, after years of labor and intensive study, claimed to have discovered the Great Secret (how to turn base metals like lead into gold); it thus had the somewhat softened meaning of “someone who is completely skilled in all the secrets of their field.”

    Historians of religion often use the term adept with reference to the ancient mystery religions that were so prevalent in the Mediterranean in the centuries around the time of Jesus. An adept was someone who, through a series of initiatory stages, had penetrated into the inner, hidden mysteries of the religion, who understood its rituals, symbols, and their meaning. To be an adept implied a lengthy and intensive master-disciple relationship, gradually being led further and further into the secrets of the god or goddess (Isis-Osiris, Mithras, Serapis, Hermes, etc.) — secrets that were never to be revealed to an outsider.

    Is “adept” a suitable category in which to consider discipleship as we see it described in the Gospels? On some levels, the link is an attractive one, drawing both upon the social-religious framework of the ancient Mediterranean, and upon certain aspects of intimacy and obscurity/secrecy that we see in the relationship of Jesus and those who followed him. The idea that disciples are “learners” — people who are “on the way” — and that Jesus is portrayed as (and addressed as) their Master/Teacher is accurate. But the comparison is unsatisfactory on several other levels.

    First, the Gospels portray Jesus’s ministry as a largely public matter — there is relatively little of the secrecy and exclusiveness that is normally associated with both the mystery cults and medieval alchemy. Jesus’s primary message is not destined for a small, elite circle of “initiates” — although the Twelve are privy to explanations, experiences and teachings that are not provided to “the crowds.” For example, in Matthew 13:10-13:

    Then the disciples came and asked him, “Why do you speak to [the crowds] in parables?” He answered, “To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. For to those who have, more will be given, and they will have an abundance; but from those who have nothing, even what they have will be taken away. The reason I speak to them in parables is that ‘seeing they do not perceive, and hearing they do not listen, nor do they understand.’”

    Etymologically, adeptus suggests someone who “has arrived,” who has attained a superior level of understanding reserved for very few. However, what we see in the Gospels, repeatedly, is a general lack of comprehension of many of Jesus’s key teachings by many of those who hear him. Many of his more cryptic sayings would have been virtually incomprehensible in their original context, and would only make sense in retrospect, in the wake of the events of Jesus’s passion, death, and resurrection. The intense master-student relationship is also lacking: the Gospels largely portray “the disciples” as a loose (and probably fluctuating) body of individuals, with minimal structure or cohesion. Finally, there seems to be little scholarly consensus about the degree to which the mystery cults had made inroads in Roman-ruled Palestine during the decades of Jesus’s life. According to Everett Ferguson in his Backgrounds of Early Christianity.

    Although Christianity had points of contact with Stoicism, the mysteries, the Qumran community, and so on, the total worldview was often quite different….So far as we can tell, Christianity represented a new combination for its time…. At the beginning of the Christian era a number of local mysteries, some of great antiquity, flourished in Greece and Asia Minor. In the first century A.D. the vonly mysteries whose extension may be called universal were the mysteries of Dionysus and those of the eastern gods, especially Isis.

    And Norman Perrin and Dennis C. Duling note, in their book The New Testament:

    Examples of such mystery religions could be found in Greece… Asia Minor… Syria-Palestine… Persia… and Egypt. Though the mysteries had sacred shrines in these regions, many of them spread to other parts of the empire, including Rome. There is no clearly direct influence of the mysteries on early Christianity, but they shared a common environment and many non-Christians would have perceived Christians as members of an oriental Jewish mystery cult.56

    Given the sparse archaeological and literary evidence from this period regarding mystery cults in Roman Palestine, and the apparent resistance of many Palestinian Jews to religious syncretism, Chouraqui’s use of the noun adept implies a comparison between the historical Jesus and mystery cults that is doubtful, on both the levels of chronology and religious culture. Personally, I believe this choice suggests a vision of Jesus that distances him from the religious world of ancient Judaism, thus creating a distorted view of what spiritually inspired him. But the idea of the disciples as “learners” on a journey (as the Greek term suggests) is a striking one to consider; certainly, the Gospels show us the Twelve as people who are growing, learning, and developing…but who have not yet “arrived” at the fullness of their vocation.

Scot McKnight (in The Second Testament, publ. 2023) translates it into English as apprentice.

In Luang several terms with different shades of meaning are being used.

  • For Mark 2:23 and 3:7: maka nwatutu-nwaye’a re — “those that are taught” (“This is the term used for ‘disciples’ before the resurrection, while Jesus was still on earth teaching them.”)
  • For Acts 9:1 and 9:10: makpesiay — “those who believe.” (“This is the term used for believers and occasionally for the church, but also for referring to the disciples when tracking participants with a view to keeping them clear for the Luang readers. Although Greek has different terms for ‘believers’, ‘brothers’, and ‘church’, only one Luang word can be used in a given episode to avoid confusion. Using three different terms would imply three different sets of participants.”)
  • For Acts 6:1: mak lernohora Yesus wniatutunu-wniaye’eni — “those who follow Jesus’ teaching.” (“This is the term used for ‘disciples’ after Jesus returned to heaven.”)

Source: Kathy Taber in Notes on Translation 1/1999, p. 9-16.

In American Sign Language it is translated with a combination of the signs for “following” plus the sign for “group.” (Source: Ruth Anna Spooner, Ron Lawer)


“disciples” in American Sign Language, source: Deaf Harbor

In British Sign Language a sign is used that depicts a group of people following one person (the finger in the middle, signifying Jesus). Note that this sign is only used while Jesus is still physically present with his disciples. (Source: Anna Smith)


“Disciple in British Sign Language (source: Christian BSL, used with permission)

See also disciples (Japanese honorifics).

Mark 8:1 - 10a in Mexican Sign Language

Following is the translation of Mark 8:1-10a into Mexican Sign Language with back-translations into Spanish and English underneath:


© La Biblia en LSM / La Palabra de Dios

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Un hombre sordo que no hablaba bien, las personas lo ayudaron (y lo dijeron que) vieniera con ellos. Fueron y dijeron a Jesús: “Él es sordo, por favor, ponle la mano y sanalo.”
Jesús vio a todas las personas y dijo a los discípulos: “Todas las personas ya han estado junto con nosotros por tres días, ellos no tienen comida, se ha acabado.

Sus casas, donde viven, están lejos, y si nos despedimos de ellos, se irán caminando y se caerán por ser mareados de hambre, siento dolor por los pobrecitos.”

Los discípulos dijeron: “Aqui es desierto, no hay comida, ¿Cómo y dónde vamos a encontrar pan para repartir?”

Jesús dijo: “¿Cuánto pan hay?” Los discípulos: “Hay siete panes.”

Jesús dijo a las personas: “Por favor, sientense.” Jesús tomó pan, dio gracias a Dios, rompió el pan y lo puso en una canasta, rompía y lo ponía hasta que se llenó la canasta, y la dio a los discípulos. Ellos la tomaron y lo repartían.

Había unos peces pequeños, muy poquito, y Jesús los bendijo y había un montón. Les dio la canasta (a los discípulos): “Uds repartanlos.” Los discípulos tomaron la canasta y los repartían.

Todas las personas, eran más o menos 4000, estaban comiendo hasta que se llenaron y los discípulos pusieron los peces y el pan que sobró en canastas. Cuando se llenó una canasta la pusieron aparte, tomaron otra canasta y la llenaron y fueron siete canastas de sobras.

Jesús se despidió de ellos y Jesús y los discípulos fueron y entraron un barco y el barco fue navigando.


Jesus looked around at all the people and said to the disciples: “All these people have been with us for three days and they have no food, it’s all gone.

“The houses in which they live are far away and if we say goodbye to them they will go walking and they will fall over being dizzy from hunger, I feel sorry for these poor people.”

The disciples said: “It’s desert here, there is no food. How and where are we going to find bread to hand out?”

Jesus said: “How much bread is there?” The disciples: “There are seven loaves.”

Jesus said to the people: “Please, sit down.” Jesus took bread and gave thanks to God, then he broke the bread and put it in a basket, he kept breaking and putting it there until it was full, then he gave the basket to the disciples and they took it and handed it out.

There were some small fishes, a few, and Jesus blessed them and there was a heap. He gave the basket (to the disciples): “You hand them out.” The disciples took the basket and handed them out.

All the people, there were more or less 4000, ate until they were full and the disciples put the fishes and the bread that were left over in baskets. When a basket was full, they would put it aside and take another one and fill it, and there were seven baskets of leftovers.

Jesus said goodbye and Jesus and the disciples went and got into a boat and the boat left.

Source: La Biblia en LSM / La Palabra de Dios

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Mark 8:1-10 in Russian Sign Language

Following is the translation of Mark 8:1-10 into Russian Sign Language with a back-translation underneath:


Source: Russian Bible Society / Российское Библейское Общество

Many people had gathered to listen to Jesus. Jesus was teaching the people. But the people did not have any food with them. Jesus said to his disciples:

— I feel sorry for these people! They have been here with me for three days, but they have no food. If I let the people go hungry, some will become weak on the long journey.

The disciples began to say:

— It’s a desert here! Where are we going to get so much bread to feed such a crowd? We won’t be able to.

Jesus said:

— Maybe some of you have some bread. Look and see if you can find some. The disciples looked and found seven loaves.

Jesus asked all the people to sit down on the ground. He took the bread in his hands and began to pray to God by saying, “Thank you, God!” Then he broke the loaves and gave them to the disciples to distribute to the people. And the disciples went to distribute the bread to the people. There were also a few fish.

Jesus took the fish, looked up to heaven, said the prayer, “Thank you, God” and gave the disciples to distribute the fish to all the people.

There were about four thousand people in all who ate and had enough to eat.

Jesus said to the disciples:

— Gather the leftover pieces of food into baskets.

The disciples went to gather the leftovers, and there were seven baskets full of leftovers. When the people had eaten, Jesus let the people go, and he and his disciples got on a boat and sailed to the region of Dalmanutha.

Original Russian back-translation (click or tap here):

Собралось множество людей, чтобы послушать Иисуса. Иисус учил народ. Но у людей не было с собой еды. Иисус сказал своим ученикам:

— Мне жаль этих людей! Они уже со мной тут три дня, но у них нет еды. Если я отпущу народ голодным, кто-то ослабеет в дальней дороге.

Ученики стали говорить:

— Тут пустыня! Где мы возьмем столько хлеба, чтобы накормить такую толпу? Мы не сможем.

Иисус сказал:

— Может быть, у кого-то из вас есть хлеб. Посмотрите, поищите. Ученики поискали и нашли семь хлебов.

Иисус попросил весь народ сесть на землю. Он взял хлеб в руки и стал молиться Богу со словами «Благодарю тебя, Боже!» Затем он разломил хлеба и дал ученикам, чтобы они раздали народу. И ученики пошли раздавать народу хлеб. Также было еще несколько рыб.

Иисус взял рыбу, посмотрел на небо, произнес молитву «Благодарю тебя, Боже…» и дал ученикам, чтобы те раздали рыбу все людям.

Всего людей, которые ели и наелись досыта, было около четырех тысяч.

Иисус сказал ученикам:

— Соберите оставшиеся куски еды в корзины.

Ученики пошли собирать остатки еды, и остатков набралось полных семь корзин. Когда народ наелся, Иисус отпустил людей, а сам с учениками сел на лодку и поплыл область Далманута.

Back-translation by Luka Manevich

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complete verse (Mark 8:4)

Following are a number of back-translations of Mark 8:4:

  • Uma: “His disciples said: ‘From where would we get food to feed them, seeing as how it is uninhabited hereabouts?'” (Source: Uma Back Translation)
  • Yakan: “His disciples said to him, ‘Na, where shall we get food to feed them here in this lonely place?'” (Source: Yakan Back Translation)
  • Western Bukidnon Manobo: “And his disciples answered, they said, ‘This is far from any houses. We can’t get anything here to feed these many people.'” (Source: Western Bukidnon Manobo Back Translation)
  • Kankanaey: “‘Yes admittedly,’ said his disciples, ‘but where will we get what-they -will-eat, because it is definitely isolated here?'” (Source: Kankanaey Back Translation)
  • Tagbanwa: “The reply of those disciples of his was, ‘Lord, wherever can we (incl.) get food here in this wilderness place to be able to feed a crowd of people like that?'” (Source: Tagbanwa Back Translation)

Translation commentary on Mark 8:4

Exegesis:

apekrithēsan ‘they answered’: the verb apokrinomai ‘answer’ is used in the aorist passive, with active meaning, here and at 9.6, 17; 11.29, 30; 12.28, 29, 34; 14.40; 15.5, 9; it appears with legei ‘he says’ in 7.28, and is used in the middle voice in 14.60, 61; 15.4 (for its use as a participle with legei ‘he says’ or eipen ‘he said’ cf. 3.33).

hoti ‘that’: introducing direct speech.

pothen toutous dunēsetai tis hōde chortasai artōn ep’ erēmias; ‘where can any one here in the desert (get the food to) feed these (people)’; Translator’s New Testament ‘From where shall anyone be able here in a wilderness to satisfy these with bread?’

pothen (cf. 6.2) ‘whence,’ ‘from where’: it may also be used with the meaning ‘how’ as in 12.37, and that is the meaning assigned to it here by Revised Standard Version; Lagrange comment.

hōde (6.3; 9.1, 5; 11.3; 13.2, 21; 14.32, 34; 16.6) ‘here.’

chortasai artōn (cf. 6.42) ‘feed with bread,’ i.e. ‘feed,’ ‘satisfy (their hunger),’ ‘fill.’

ep’ erēmias (only here in Mark) ‘in (this) uninhabited place,’ ‘in this isolated spot’ (cf. erēmos ‘wilderness’ 1.3): this phrase defines the character of hōde ‘here.’

Translation:

Answered is not to be understood in reply to a question, though it may have been implied. The basic meaning is ‘replied,’ but in languages which require the introduction of a question by the appropriate verb, one may use ‘asked in reply.’

Feed must be carefully translated in instances in which a distinction is made between providing food for people and giving food to animals. Feed … with bread may be most naturally rendered in some instances as ‘give them bread to eat.’

While the Greek uses an indefinite tis ‘any one,’ some languages require either a noun ‘any man’ or a first person plural ‘we.’ In this latter instance one must then determine in some languages whether the inclusive or exclusive first person plural must be used, that is to say, were the disciples thinking only of their own inability to feed the people, in contrast with Jesus’ presumed ability? It is probably better, however, to use the inclusive form, implying the complete inability, as far as the disciples could determine, to provide food for such a large group in this desert place.

For desert see wilderness 1.3.

Quoted with permission from Bratcher, Robert G. and Nida, Eugene A. A Handbook on the Gospel of Mark. (UBS Handbook Series). New York: UBS, 1961. For this and other handbooks for translators see here .

SIL Translator's Notes on Mark 8:4

8:4a

In Greek, 8:4 begins with a common conjunction that the Revised Standard Version translates as “and.” In this context it introduces the disciples’ response to what Jesus had said. They objected to his implied suggestion that they needed to feed the people. In some languages it may be natural to use a conjunction like “but” to introduce it. Translate in a natural way in your language for this context.

His disciples replied: The word replied introduces the disciples’ response to what Jesus had just said. In some languages it may be more natural to use a different verb like “said.”

disciples: See the note on 8:1c.

8:4b–c

Where in this desolate place could anyone find enough bread to feed all these people?: This is a rhetorical question. It expresses an objection. The disciples implied that it would be impossible to find enough food in that remote place to feed that large crowd. There are at least two ways to translate this objection:

• As a rhetorical question. For example:

Where in this desert can anyone find enough food to feed all these people? (Good News Bible)
-or-
Can anyone possibly find enough food in this wilderness to feed all these people?
-or-
How can anyone provide these people with bread in this remote place? (Revised English Bible)

• As a statement. For example:

No one could ever find enough bread to feed all these people here in this uninhabited place!
-or-
It is impossible to find enough food in this remote place to feed all these people!

Use whichever form is most natural to express this sort of emphatic objection in your language.

in this desolate place: The Greek word that the Berean Standard Bible translates as desolate place indicates a place where few people lived. It was a place that was far from any town or village.

Here are some other ways to translate this:

in this remote place (New International Version)
-or-
in this place where no one lives (God’s Word)
-or-
in the wilderness (New Living Translation)

This same word occurs in 6:35c. For more information, see the note on “wilderness” in 1:3a.

could anyone find enough bread: The Greek word that the Berean Standard Bible translates as bread is literally “loaves.” It refers to loaves of bread, the main food of the Jewish people. If the people for whom you are translating do not eat bread, you could use a general term here, such as “food.” For example, the Contemporary English Version says:

Where can we find enough food to feed such a crowd?

However, you may need to use a more specific term in 8:6 and 8:9. See how you translated bread in 6:37.

to feed all these people: The Greek word that the Berean Standard Bible translates as to feed can also mean “to satisfy, fill.” This same word also occurs in 8:8a where it is translated as “satisfied.” Some other versions translate to feed as “to satisfy” Here in 8:4, as well. For example:

Where can someone get enough bread in this desolate place to satisfy these people? (NET Bible)
-or-
How can one satisfy these people with bread here in the wilderness? (New King James Version)

Consider translating to feed as “to satisfy” here if it would be natural in your language.

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