The Greek in Luke 12:50 that is translated as “I have a baptism with which to be baptized” in English is translated idiomatically in Chechen as “I have a sea of suffering to undergo.” (Source: David Clark in The Bible Translator 2015, p. 117ff. )
complete verse (Luke 12:50)
Following are a number of back-translations of Luke 12:50:
- Noongar: “The day of my baptism must happen, and I will be very stressed before the day when everything will finish.” (Source: Warda-Kwabba Luke-Ang)
- Uma: “There is still suffering which I must suffer, and my heart will never be still/calm if that suffering has not yet happened.” (Source: Uma Back Translation)
- Yakan: “There are persecutions which I have to experience. I have difficulties/am-made-heavy as long as it is not yet over/finished.” (Source: Yakan Back Translation)
- Western Bukidnon Manobo: “There is that with which I will be baptized which are the many torments that I have to go through, that have not yet taken place. It’s as if I were carrying the sky on my head until the time when this is finished.” (Source: Western Bukidnon Manobo Back Translation)
- Kankanaey: “But it is necessary that I endure suffering first and here-now I am burdened (lit. heavied) until it is finished.” (Source: Kankanaey Back Translation)
- Tagbanwa: “Really big is the hardship/suffering which I must experience, this being what I am very much distressed about as long as it hasn’t yet been fulfilled.” (Source: Tagbanwa Back Translation)
baptism, baptize
About the translation of the Greek (and Ge’ez) term that is usually transliterated with the terms “baptism” or “baptize” in English (for other English translations see below), Bratcher / Nida (1961) say this (click or tap for details):
“[It] has given rise not only to an immense amount of discussion in terms of its meaning within the Judaeo-Christia historical context, but also continues to introduce serious problems for translators today. In many instances the recommendation has been to transliterate, i.e. employing some indigenous equivalent of the sounds of the word in some more prestigious language spoken in the region, e.g. English, French, Spanish, or Portuguese. Though this solution tends to remove some theological controversies, it does not completely satisfy everyone, for not only does it avoid the problem of the mode of baptism, but it leaves the Scriptures with a zero word. Unfortunately, many of the controversies over the indigenous equivalent of baptism arise because of a false evaluation of a word’s so-called etymology. For example, in Yucateco the word for baptism means literally ‘to enter the water’, but this term is used freely by both Presbyterians and Roman Catholics, even though it might appear to be strictly ‘Baptist nomenclature.’ Similarly, in Kekchí, an even ‘stronger’ term ‘to put under the water’ is employed by Nazarenes and Roman Catholics. Obviously the meanings of these Yucateco and Kekchí words are not derivable from their literal significance but from the fact that they now designate a particular kind of Christian rite. To insist on changing such a well-established usage (and one to which immersionists could certainly not object) would seem quite unwarranted. The situation may, on the other hand, be reversed. There are instances in which immersionists are quite happy to use a term which though it means literally ‘to put water on the head’ [see below for the translations in Northern Emberá and Ewe] has actually lost this etymological value and refers simply to the rite itself, regardless of the way in which it is performed. A translator should not, however, employ an already existing expression or construct a new phrase which will in its evident meaning rule out any major Christian constituency.
“There are, of course, a number of instances in which traditional terms for ‘baptism’ need modification. In some situations the word may mean only ‘to give a new name to’ (one aspect of christening) or ‘to be one who lights’ (referring to a custom in some traditions of lighting a candle at the time of baptism). However, in order to reproduce the core of significant meaning of the original Biblical term, it is important to explore the entire range of indigenous usage in order that whatever term is chosen may have at least some measure of cultural relevance. In Navajo (Dinė), for example, there were four principal possibilities of choice: (1) borrowing some transliterated form of the English word, (2) constructing a phrase meaning ‘to touch with water’ (an expression which would have been acceptable with some groups in the field, but not with others), (3) using a phrase meaning ‘ceremonial washing’ (but this expression seemed to be too closely related to indigenous practices in healing ceremonies), and (4) devising an expression meaning ‘to dedicate (or consecrate) by water’, without specifying the amount of water employed. This last alternative was chosen as the most meaningful and the best basis for metaphorical extension and teaching.
“On the other hand, it would be wrong to think that the meaning of ‘washing’ must be rejected in all languages. For example, it is quite appropriate in Kpelle culture, since it ties in with male puberty rites, and in the San Blas Kuna society, since washing is a very important aspect of female puberty ceremonies, in some translations ‘water’ is introduced into the expression for baptism, but the quantity and means of administrating it are left quite ambiguous, e.g. ‘to get (take, receive) water’ (Tzeltal). Toraja-Sa’dan, Pamona and Batak Toba render the verb ‘to pour water over, give a bath’.” (Source: Bratcher / Nida)
Other examples of translation include:
- Javanese, Indonesian and many others: transliterated forms of the Greek “baptizo”
- Pamona, Wejewa: “to bathe, wash with water”
- Sundanese: “to apply water to”
- Padoe: “to make one wet with water”
- Batak Simalungun: “to wash with a little bit of water” (“used in speaking of a ceremony in which very small children are ceremonially cleansed”)
- Kambera: “to dip into”
- Balinese: ngelukat (a Balinese initiation ceremony in which persons were sprinkled with consecrated water) (source for this and above: Biblical Terms in The Bible Translator 1952, p. 225ff. )
- Maan: “put in water” (source: Don Slager)
- Mairasi: fat jaenggom; “water washing” (“baptize with the Holy Spirit”: “wash with the Holy Spirit”) (source: Enggavoter 2004)
- Kwara’ae: “holy wash” (traditional church term for baptism) (source: Carl Gross)
- Shipibo-Conibo: “to wash” (Catholic: “to name;” Seventh Day Adventists: “to bathe”) (source: James Lauriault in The Bible Translator 1951, p. 56ff. )
- Northern Emberá: “head-poured” (source: Loewen 1980, p. 107)
- Ewe: “put God’s water on one’s head”
- Dangme (1999 edition) / Ga (2006 edition): “pray for one” (in Matthew 28:19)
- Akan: “throw water at one” (source for this and two above: Jonathan E.T. Kuwornu-Adjaottor in HTS Teologiese Studies/Theological Studies 2025 )
- Muna: kadiu sarani “Christian bathing” (source: René von den Berg)
- Gonja: “bath of God”
- Konkomba: “put them deep in the water” (source for this and one above: Jonathan E.T. Kuwornu-Adjaottor in HTS Teologiese Studies/Theological Studies 2025 )
- Agarabi: “get water” (“being baptized”); “give water” (“baptizing”)
- Safeyoka: “immerse in water”
- Yagaria: “gospel water” (bono’ nina) for “baptism” and “wash (or: rub) with gospel water” (bono’ ni’ folo-) for “baptize” (source for this and two above: Renck 1990, p. 84; 115)
- Apali: “pulled down and lifted up in water” (source: Martha Wade in The Bible Translator 2013, p. 324ff. )
- Halh Mongolian: argon ochial (“holy washing”) (“The people in Mongolia are strictly religious and understand the meaning very well. They are familiar with the idea of water being used as a symbol of a new life and having received ‘holy washing’ means to have entered into a new sphere of life.”) (Source: A. Marthinson in The Bible Translator 1954, p. 74ff. ) (Note: In more recent Mongolian translations a transliteration of baptizo is used instead)
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Yatzachi Zapotec: (Spanish loan word and transliteration of the Greek term) bautizar (click or tap for details):
“The Yatzachi Zapotec know the practice of baptism and have a word to express it. There would thus seem to be no problem involved. Unfortunately, however, the word for ‘baptize’ is a compound, one part being a word nowhere else used and the other part being the word for ‘water.’ Perhaps ‘water-baptize’ is the closest equivalent in English. For most contexts this presents no problem, but if the word is used in Mark 1:8, it would say, ‘He will water-baptize you with the Holy Ghost.’ In Zapotec the idea is unintelligible. To meet the problem, the Spanish word ‘bautizar’ was introduced at this point though the Zapotec word is ordinarily used. The disadvantages of this substitution are obvious, but no better solution was found.” (Source: Otis M. Leal in The Bible Translator 1951, p. 164ff.
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Uab Meto: antam oe (“to enter into the water”) (click or tap for details):
“Formerly in Uab Meto the word used for ’baptism’ was ‘nasrami’ which actually came by way of Arabic from ‘Nazarene.’ Its meaning was ‘to make a Christian’ and the idea was that the one who baptized actually made Christians. Such an expression was obviously inadequate. We have used for ‘baptize’ the phrase in ‘antam oe’ which means ‘to enter into the water.’ This phrase can be used for sprinkling, for water is used as a symbol of the new life, and being baptized means for the Uab Meto to enter into a new sphere of life. Baptism is so frequently spoken of in connection with the giving of the Holy Spirit that the proper associations have arisen in the thinking of the people.” (Source: P. Middelkoop in The Bible Translator 1952 p. 165ff. )
- Mandarin Chinese: Catholic: 洗 xǐ (“washing”); non-Baptist Protestant 聖洗 shèngxǐ (“holy washing”); Baptist: 浸洗 jìnxǐ (“immerse and wash”) (In the history of Chinese Bible translation the translation of the Greek baptizo was a point of great contention, so much so that in the 19th Century Baptists had a completely different set of Bible translations and even today are using different editions with the different term of the same versions that other Protestants use.) (Source: Zetzsche 2008)
- Many Germanic languages use a term that originally means “dip” or “make deep”: German: Taufe, Danish: dåb Swedish: dop, Norwegian: dåp, Dutch: doop, Faroese: dópur; and so do Creole languages with a strong Dutch influence, such as Saramaccan, Sranan Tongo, or Eastern Maroon Creole: dopu
- The German das Buch translation by Roland Werner (publ. 2009-2022) uses a variety of translations, including “immersed (in water)” (eintauchen or untertauchen) but also the traditional German term for “baptism (Taufe)” or in the combination “immersed in baptism”
The disagreement about whether the translation of the Greek baptizo needed to include “immersion” not only caused conflict in China, it also led to splits — and different translations — in English-speaking countries: “The influential British and Foreign Bible Society had been a major supporter of the [Baptist] Serampore mission, but it finally severed its support in 1836 because of the Baptist interpretation of the Bible translations produced there. This led to the formation of the separate Baptist Bible Translation Society in Great Britain in 1840. Almost concurrently, in 1837, the American and Foreign Bible Society was founded in the United States as an offspring of the American Bible Society, over a controversy about a Baptist Bengali Bible translation. The American and Foreign Bible Society itself experienced another split in 1850, when a sub-group rejected the transliteration of baptizo in the English Bible and formed the American Bible Union, which published its own English New Testament in 1862/63 that used the term immerse instead of “baptize” (see here ). (Source: Zetzsche 2008)
See also baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with.
Click or tap here to see a short video clip showing how baptisms were done in biblical times (source: Bible Lands 2012)
Learn more on Bible Odyssey: Baptism in Early Christianity .
1st person pronoun referring to God (Japanese)
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Like a number of other East Asian languages, Japanese uses a complex system of honorifics, i.e. a system where a number of different levels of politeness are expressed in language via words, word forms or grammatical constructs. These can range from addressing someone or referring to someone with contempt (very informal) to expressing the highest level of reference (as used in addressing or referring to God) or any number of levels in-between.
One way Japanese shows different degree of politeness is through the choice of a first person singular and plural pronoun (“I” and “we” and its various forms) as shown here in the widely-used Japanese Shinkaiyaku (新改訳) Bible of 2017. The most commonly used watashi/watakushi (私) is typically used when the speaker is humble and asking for help. In these verses, where God / Jesus is referring to himself, watashi is also used but instead of the kanji writing system (私) the syllabary hiragana (わたし) is used to distinguish God from others.
(Source: S. E. Doi, see also S. E. Doi in Journal of Translation, 18/2022, p. 37ff. )
See also pronoun for “God”.
Sung version of Luke 12
Translation commentary on Luke 12:50
Exegesis:
baptisma de echō baptisthēnai ‘but I have a baptism to be baptized with.’ baptisma is emphatic: before the fire can be kindled Jesus has to undergo a baptism. For baptism as a metaphor of suffering.
pōs sunechomai heōs hotou telesthē ‘how I am distressed till it is accomplished!,’ i.e. ‘till it is over.’ For sunechomai cf. on 4.38. The subject of telesthē is baptisma, and the clause refers to a situation that is to come about. For teleō cf. on 2.39.
Translation:
I have a baptism to be baptized with, or, ‘I have a baptism to undergo/receive,’ ‘I have to be baptized in a certain way,’ or shifting to a simile, ‘I have to be immersed/bathed as at baptism (or, as though I were baptized),’ cf. ‘I must begin by being submerged by the baptism I shall be done’ (Shona 1966). If the term and/or the ritual do not have a clear association with immersion in water, an explanatory note referring the reader to Mk. 1.9f, Acts 8.36-39, may be useful. Where the figure of speech would be incomprehensible the non-figurative meaning may have to be added, e.g. ‘I have to be plunged in suffering as a person is plunged in water when he is baptized’ (or in active construction with indefinite agent). For baptism, baptized see 3.3.
I am constrained, or, ‘I feel oppressed,’ ‘my mind is-in-straits’ (Balinese), ‘my-heart (is) restless’ (Bahasa Indonesia RC).
Until, cf. 1.20.
Quoted with permission from Reiling, J. and Swellengrebel, J.L. A Handbook on the Gospel of Luke. (UBS Handbook Series). New York: UBS, 1971. For this and other handbooks for translators see here . Make sure to also consult the Handbook on the Gospel of Mark for parallel or similar verses.
SIL Translator’s Notes on Luke 12:50
12:50a
But: The Greek word that the Berean Standard Bible translates as But here introduces something that had to take place before the wish in the previous verse part could be fulfilled. It is not introducing a separate or contrasting idea.
I have a baptism to undergo: The Greek clause that the Berean Standard Bible translates as I have a baptism to undergo is literally “I have a baptism to be baptized with.” Some English versions, such as the Revised Standard Version, translate it that way.
In this context, Luke used the Greek word baptism figuratively. It describes an experience that is overwhelming. In this context it refers to the terrible suffering that Jesus would endure. In some languages it may not be possible to use the same term that you used for baptism in water. Here are some other ways to translate in this context:
• Use an expression that is similar to the one for baptism but does not necessarily require water. For example:
I must endure a purifying initiation
• Use an expression that is similar to the one you used for baptism but make the meaning explicit. For example:
I must endure a purifying bath of suffering
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I have a terrible baptism of suffering ahead of me (New Living Translation (2004))
• Translate the meaning without the figure of baptism. For example:
I must endure overwhelming agony
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I am going to be put to a hard test (Contemporary English Version)
See baptize, Meaning 2, in the Glossary.
12:50b
how distressed I am: The phrase how distressed I am expresses the mental and emotional stress/pressure and suffering that Jesus felt as he thought about his coming death on the cross. Other ways to translate this clause are:
I feel very troubled (New Century Version)
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what stress I am under (New Revised Standard Version)
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