complete verse (Joshua 15:4)

Following are a number of back-translations as well as a sample translation for translators of Joshua 15:4:

  • Kupsabiny: “It went to Azmon following the Wadi of Egypt to hit the ocean. That was the border of Judah in the south.” (Source: Kupsabiny Back Translation)
  • Newari: “Going toward Azmon by way of the valley of Egypt, the boundary arrives at the Mediterranean Sea. There its boundary is complete. That is their southern boundary.” (Source: Newari Back Translation)
  • Hiligaynon: “going-towards Azmon, then to the place-where- the water -flows of Egipto up-to the Sea of the Mediteraneo. That (is) the boundary of Juda to the south.” (Source: Hiligaynon Back Translation)
  • English: “From there it continued to Azmon, and from there to the dry riverbed on the border of Egypt, and from there west to the Mediterranean Sea. That was the southern border.” (Source: Translation for Translators)

cardinal directions

The cardinal directions “east” and “west” are easy to translate into Maan here since the language uses “where the sun comes up” and “where the sun goes down.” For “north” the translator had “facing toward the sun rising to the left,” and for “south” she had “facing toward the sun rising to the right.” So the listener had to think hard before knowing what direction was in view when translating “to the north and south, to the east and west.” So, in case all four directions are mentioned, it was shortened by saying simply “all directions.” Manya uses a similar nomenclature for the cardinal directions. (Source: Don Slager)

Likewise, Yakan has “from the four corners of the earth” (source: Yakan back-translation) or Western Bukidnon Manobo “from the four directions here on the earth” (source: Western Bukidnon Manobo back-translation).

Kankanaey is “from the coming-out and the going-away of the sun and the north and the south” (source: Kankanaey back-translation), Northern Emberá “from where the sun comes up, from where it falls, from the looking [left] hand, from the real [right] hand” (source: Charles Mortensen), Amele “from the direction of the sun going up, from the direction of the sun going down, from the north and from the south” (source: John Roberts), Ejamat “look up to see the side where the sun comes from, and the side where it sets, and look on your right side, and on your left” (source: David Frank in this blog post ).

In Lamba, only umutulesuŵa, “where the sun rises” and imbonsi, “where the sun sets” were available as cardinal directions that were not tied to the local area of language speakers (“north” is kumausi — “to the Aushi country” — and “south” kumalenje — “to the Lenje country”). So “north” and “south” were introduced as loanwords, nofu and saufu respectively. The whole phrase is kunofu nakusaufu nakumutulesuŵa nakumbonsi. (Source C. M. Doke in The Bible Translator 1958, p. 57ff. )

“West” is translated in Tzeltal as “where the sun pours-out” and in Kele as “down-river” (source: Reiling / Swellengrebel).

In Morelos Nahuatl, “north” is translated as “from above” and “south” as “from below.” (Source: Viola Waterhouse in Notes on Translation August 1966, p. 86ff.)

In Matumbi cardinal directions are defined as in relation to another place. “East” for instance typically is “toward the beach” since the coast is in the eastern direction in Matumbi-speaking areas. “North” and “south” can be defined as above or below another place. (Source: Pioneer Bible Translators, project-specific notes in Paratext)

The Hebrew text that gives instructions where to place items in the tabernacle with the help of cardinal directions (north and south) had to be approached in the Bambam translation specific to spacial concepts of that culture.

Phil Campbell explains: “There are no words in Bambam for north and south. In Exodus 26:35, God instructs that the table is to be placed on the north side and the lamp on the south side inside the tabernacle. The team wants to use right and left to tell where the lamp and table are located. In many languages we would say that the table is on the right and the lampstand is on the left based on the view of someone entering the tabernacle. However, that is not how Bambam people view it. They view the placement of things and rooms in a building according to the orientation of someone standing inside the building facing the front of the building. So that means the table is on the left side and the lampstand is on the right side.”

See also cardinal directions / left and right and people of the East.

sea / lake

The various Greek, Aramaic, Ge’ez, and Latin and Hebrew terms that are translated as “sea,” “ocean,” or “lake” in English are all translated in Chichewa with one term: nyanja. Malawi, where Chichewa is spoken, has a lot of lakes but does not share a border with the ocean. (Source: Mawu a Mulungu mu Chichewa Chalero Back Translation)

In Malagasy culture, the sea is perceived as sacred because it was a path taken by the ancestors. That is why the Malagasy word for the “sea” is ranomasina, which literally means “the sacred water.” The word masina actually has two different meanings: “salted” and “sacred/holy.” Salt is used for the conservation of some foods, such as meat or fish, that are to be set aside for later use. In this sense, the Malagasy phrase for “Holy Spirit” has the literal meaning of “Salted Spirit.” (Source: Brigitte Rabarijaona in The Bible Translator 2022, p. 103ff.)

formal 2nd person plural pronoun (Japanese)

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Like a number of other East Asian languages, Japanese uses a complex system of honorifics, i.e. a system where a number of different levels of politeness are expressed in language via words, word forms or grammatical constructs. These can range from addressing someone or referring to someone with contempt (very informal) to expressing the highest level of reference (as used in addressing or referring to God) or any number of levels in-between.

One way Japanese shows different degree of politeness is through the choice of a formal plural suffix to the second person pronoun (“you” and its various forms) as shown here in the widely-used Japanese Shinkaiyaku (新改訳) Bible of 2017. In these verses, anata-gata (あなたがた) is used, combining the second person pronoun anata and the plural suffix -gata to create a formal plural pronoun (“you” [plural] in English).

(Source: S. E. Doi, see also S. E. Doi in Journal of Translation, 18/2022, p. 37ff. )

Translation commentary on Joshua 15:2 - 15:4

Inasmuch as verses 2-4 give the details of the southern border of Judah, it may be useful to introduce this information by some formula such as “Specifically, this southern border ran….”

It may also be helpful to identify Zin (verse 3) as the wilderness of Zin, and Kadesh Barnea, Hezron, Addar, Karka, and Azmon as cities. Furthermore, in place of went southward (verse 3) it would be more nearly accurate to render “went in a southwesterly direction.”

In restructuring, it may be wise at some point to break the lengthy sentence which runs from the last half of verse 2 to the first part of verse 4. For example: “4 went on to the city of Azmon. From there it followed the stream on the border of Egypt in a northwesterly direction to the Mediterranean Sea.”

In Hebrew That was the southern border of Judah is in direct discourse, and it states “This shall be your southern border” (see Revised Standard Version). This statement is addressed either to the people of the tribe of Judah or to the Israelites as a whole; Hebrew Old Testament Text Project recommends the second interpretation, which is not followed by Good News Translation.

Since the southern borders of Judah and the Israelite nation are the same, it is possible to combine both interpretations: “That was the southern border of Judah and also of all the tribes of Israel.” Or, on the assumption that it is implicitly the southern border of Judah, one may translate “That was at the same time the southern border of all the tribes of Israel.”

Quoted with permission from Bratcher, Robert G. and Newman, Barclay M. A Handbook on Joshua. (UBS Helps for Translators). New York: UBS, 1983. For this and other handbooks for translators see here .

SIL Translator’s Notes on Joshua 15:4

15:4a

It proceeded to Azmon: Here are some other ways to translate this part of the verse:

The border then continued to Azmon
-or-
The boundary line went past the town of Azmon

15:4b

joined the Brook of Egypt: The Hebrew word that the Berean Standard Bible translates as Brook refers to a river. This river had water only in the rainy season. See Joshua 12:1 where this Hebrew word was translated “Valley.”

Brook of Egypt: The phrase Brook of Egypt refers to a river that drains rainwater from the Sinai Peninsula into the Mediterranean Sea. This river is usually dry but becomes a large river when it rains. It formed the boundary between Israel and Egypt. Today this river is called the Wadi el Arish.

Here are some ways to translate this phrase:

Stream of Egypt (NET Bible)
-or-
River of Egypt (God’s Word, King James Version)
-or-
Wadi of Egypt (New International Version, Tanakh: The Holy Scriptures)
-or-
the stream on the border of Egypt (Good News Translation)

Here are some other ways to translate this part of the verse:

The boundary line⌋ followed the river valley on the border of Egypt
-or-
and continued along the Brook of Egypt

15:4c

and ended at the Sea: The term the Sea refers to the Mediterranean Sea. It may be helpful to make this clear.

Here are some other ways to translate this part of the verse:

and ended at the Mediterranean Sea
-or-
until it reached the Mediterranean Sea

15:4d

This was their southern border: Here the author speaks directly to the people of Judah. The Berean Standard Bible translates this as their southern border, while some English versions chose to translate this with a second person plural reference. For example:

All this describes your boundary on the south

Here are some other ways to translate this part of the verse:

their south boundary (New International Version, NET Bible)
-or-
That was the south border of the tribe of Judah

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