Like many languages (but unlike Greek or Hebrew or English), Tuvan uses a formal vs. informal 2nd person pronoun (a familiar vs. a respectful “you”). Unlike other languages that have this feature, however, the translators of the Tuvan Bible have attempted to be very consistent in using the different forms of address in every case a 2nd person pronoun has to be used in the translation of the biblical text.
As Voinov shows in Pronominal Theology in Translating the Gospels (in: The Bible Translator2002, p. 210ff. ), the choice to use either of the pronouns many times involved theological judgment. While the formal pronoun can signal personal distance or a social/power distance between the speaker and addressee, the informal pronoun can indicate familiarity or social/power equality between speaker and addressee.
Here, the crowd and Pilate address each other with the formal, respectful pronoun.
The Greek that is translated as “King of the Jews” in most English translations is translated in Noongar as Djelyib moortakang Judea-kang or “King of the people of Judea.” (Source: Warda-Kwabba Luke-Ang)
Retrotraducciones en español (haga clic o pulse aquí)
Mucho antes un hombre, Barrabás, junto con otras personas, se levantó contra el gobierno romano con violencia y también mató a varias personas.
Los soldados romanos arrestaron a las personas y los metieron en la cárcel y Barrabás igual fue metido en la cárcel.
Después, a continuación, una multitude de personas fue ante Pilato y dijeron: “Tú sabes que es el día de la fiesta de Pascua y siempre, cada año, es el costumbre que liberas a una persona, por favor (hazlo).”
Pilato sabía que los sacerdotes estaban celosos y por eso habían arrestado a Jesús, y preguntó: “‘Él, Jesús, el rey de los Judíos, ¿quieren que lo deje libre?”
Los líderes de los sacerdotes dijeron: “Mejor diganle que libere al hombre Barrabás.” Las personas obedecieron y gritaron: “¡Libera a Barrábas!”
Pilato dijo: “He oido a uds hablando de este Jesús como rey de los judios, y ahora ¿tengo que castigarlo? ¿Cuál es? Diganme.”
Todas las personas gritaron: “¡Crucificalo!” Pilato (preguntó): “¿Porqué, qué tipo de maldad (ha cometido) Jesús?” Todas las personas gritaron más fuerte: “¡Crucificalo, crucificalo!”
Pilate (dijo): “Bien” y mandó que Barrabás fue liberado y mandó a los soldados: “vayan y azoten a Jesús y después crucifiquenlo.”
Long before a man, Barrabas, together with other people revolted against the roman government violently and he also killed several people.
The roman soldiers arrested the people and put them in prison, and Barrabas was put in prison as well.
Then, afterwards, a multitude of people went before Pilate and said: “You know it’s the day of the Passover feast, and it is always, every year, the custom that you set someone free, please (do this).”
Pilate knew inside that the priests were jealous and that’s why they had arrested Jesus, and he asked: “He, Jesus, the king of the Jews, do you want me to let him go free?”
The leaders of the priests said: “Better tell him to set the man Barrabas free.” The people obeyed and shouted: “Set Barrabas free!”
Pilate said: “I have heard you talking about Jesus here as the king of the Jews, and now I should punish him? Which one is it? Tell me.”
All the people shouted: “Crucify him!” Pilate (asked): “Why, what kind of wrong (has) Jesus (done)?” All the people shouted louder: “Crucify him, crucify him!”
Pilate went “OK” and ordered that Barrabas was freed and he ordered the soldiers: “Go and whip Jesus and crucify him afterwards.”
The chief priests, elders, and scribes were judges, and they deliberated. Early in the morning, when it was light, they made a decision. What was it? They had to bring Jesus to Pilate. That was what they decided among themselves. Pilate was the Roman governor of Judea. They took Jesus, tied his hands, and led him to where Pilate was. The chief priests were gathered there. Jesus stood before them. Pilate asked Jesus:
— Are you the king of the Jews?
Jesus answered:
— You yourself say that I am the king of the Jews.
The chief priests began to get angry. They began to accuse Jesus of crimes. Pilate, after listening, asked Jesus again:
— Why are you silent, why don’t you say anything? Look how many accusations there are against you.
But Jesus said nothing, he simply remained silent. Pilate was very surprised.
This was the beginning of the Passover holiday. According to tradition, every year at this time the people could ask Pilate to release one prisoner. At this time, there was a man named Bar-Abba in prison, as well as accomplices in his crimes. Earlier, Bar-Abba had rebelled against the Romans and committed murder. Therefore, he was put in prison. The people, according to tradition, came and began to ask Pilate to release Bar-Abba. Pilate realized that this was what the high priests had ordered. They had handed Jesus over to trial out of envy. Pilate realized this and said to the people:
— Here is Jesus, who is the king of the Jews, perhaps you want me to release him?
But the high priests began to incite the people to ask specifically for the release of Bar-Abba. Pilate said:
— And Jesus, whom you call the king of the Jews, what do you want me to do with him? And the people began to shout that Jesus should be crucified.
Pilate said:
— What did Jesus do wrong?
But the people began to shout even louder that Jesus must be crucified. And then Pilate ordered that Bar-Abba be released, and that Jesus be beaten with whips and crucified on the cross.
Original Russian back-translation (click or tap here):
Первосвященники, старейшины, а также книжники были судьями, они совещались. Ранним утром, когда рассвело, они приняли решение. Какое это было решение? Нужно привести Иисуса к Пилату. Так они между собой решили. Пилат был римский правитель Иудеи. Они взяли Иисуса, связали ему руки и повел его туда, где был Пилат. Там же собрались первосвященники. Перед ними стоял Иисус. Пилат спросил Иисуса:
— Ты царь иудеев?
Иисус ответил:
— Это ты сам так говоришь, что я царь иудеев.
Первосвященники начали злиться. Начали обвинять Иисуса в преступлениях. Пилат, выслушав, повторно спросил Иисуса:
— Почему ты молчишь, ничего не говоришь? Посмотри, сколько обвинений против тебя.
Но Иисус ничего не говорил, просто молчал. Пилат был очень сильно удивлён.
Это время было началом праздника Пасхи. По традиции, каждый год в это время народ мог попросить у Пилата, чтобы он отпустил одного заключенного. В это время в тюрьме был человек по имени Бар-Абба, а также соучастники в его преступлениях. Ранее Бар-Абба поднял бунт против римлян и совершил убийство. Поэтому его посадили в тюрьму. Народ по традиции пришел и стал просить Пилата, чтобы он отпустил Бар-Аббу. Пилат понял, что так велели первосвященники. Они из зависти отдали Иисуса на суд. Это понял Пилат и сказал народу:
— Вот Иисус, который царь иудейский, может быть, вы хотите, чтобы я его отпустил?
Но первосвященники начали подговаривать народ, чтобы они просили именно отпустить Бар-Аббу. Пилат сказал:
— А Иисус, которого вы называете царем иудеев, что вы хотите, чтобы я с ним сделал? И люди начали кричать, что Иисуса нужно распять. Пилат сказал:
— Что Иисус сделал плохого?
Но народ ещё сильнее начал кричать, что Иисус должен быть распят. И тогда Пилат приказал, чтобы Бар-Аббу отпустили, а Иисуса избили бичами и распяли на кресте.
Some languages do not have a concept of kingship and therefore no immediate equivalent for the Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, and Latin that is translated as “king” in English. Here are some (back-) translations:
Ninia Yali: “big brother with the uplifted name” (source: Daud Soesilio in Noss 2007, p. 175)
Nyamwezi: mutemi: generic word for ruler, by specifying the city or nation it becomes clear what kind of ruler (source: Pioneer Bible Translators, project-specific translation notes in Paratext)
Ghomála’: Fo (“The word Fo refers to the paramount ruler in the kingdoms of West Cameroon. He holds administrative, political, and religious power over his own people, who are divided into two categories: princes (descendants of royalty) and servants (everyone else).” (Source: Michel Kenmogne in Theologizing in Context: An Example from the Study of a Ghomala’ Christian Hymn))
Faye Edgerton retells how the term in Navajo (Dinė) was determined:
“[This term was] easily expressed in the language of Biblical culture, which had kings and noblemen with their brilliant trappings and their position of honor and praise. But leadership among the Navajos is not accompanied by any such titles or distinctions of dress. Those most respected, especially in earlier days, were their headmen, who were the leaders in raids, and the shaman, who was able to serve the people by appealing for them to the gods, or by exorcising evil spirits. Neither of these made any outward show. Neither held his position by political intrigue or heredity. If the headman failed consistently in raids, he was superceded by a better warrior. If the shaman failed many times in his healing ceremonies, it was considered that he was making mistakes in the chants, or had lost favor with the gods, and another was sought. The term Navajos use for headman is derived from a verb meaning ‘to move the head from side to side as in making an oration.’ The headman must be a good orator, able to move the people to go to war, or to follow him in any important decision. This word is naat’áanii which now means ‘one who rules or bosses.’ It is employed now for a foreman or boss of any kind of labor, as well as for the chairman of the tribal council. So in order to show that the king is not just a common boss but the highest ruler, the word ‘aláahgo, which expresses the superlative degree, was put before naat’áanii, and so ‘aláahgo naat’áanii ‘anyone-more-than-being around-he-moves-his-head-the-one-who’ means ‘the highest ruler.’ Naat’áanii was used for governor as the context usually shows that the person was a ruler of a country or associated with kings.”
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Like a number of other East Asian languages, Japanese uses a complex system of honorifics, i.e. a system where a number of different levels of politeness are expressed in language via words, word forms or grammatical constructs. These can range from addressing someone or referring to someone with contempt (very informal) to expressing the highest level of reference (as used in addressing or referring to God) or any number of levels in-between. One way Japanese shows different degree of politeness is through the choice of a second person pronoun (“you” and its various forms) as shown here in the widely-used Japanese Shinkaiyaku (新改訳) Bible of 2017. The most commonly used anata (あなた) is typically used when the speaker is humbly addressing another person.
In these verses, however, omae (おまえ) is used, a cruder second person pronoun, that Jesus for instance chooses when chiding his disciples. (Source: S. E. Doi, see also S. E. Doi in Journal of Translation, 18/2022, p. 37ff. )
Living Water is produced for the Bible translation movement in association with Lutheran Bible Translators. Lyrics derived from the ESV® Bible (The Holy Bible, English Standard Version®).
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