Logos, Word

Newman / Nida describe some of the difficulties surrounding the translation of the Greek “Logos” which is typically translated as “Word” in English (click or tap here to read more):

“The term ‘the Word’ has a rich heritage, by way of both its Greek and Jewish backgrounds. For the Greeks who held to a theistic view of the universe, it could be understood as the means by which God reveals himself to the world, while among those who were pantheistic in outlook, the Word was the principle that held the world together and at the same time endowed men with the wisdom for living. In the Greek translation of the Old Testament (Septuagint), the Word could be used both of the means by which God had created the world (Ps 33:6) and through which he had revealed himself to the world (Jer 1:4; Ezek 1:3; Amos 3:1). Among certain of the Greek-speaking Jews of New Testament times, there was much speculation about the ‘wisdom’ of God, which God ‘made in the very beginning, at the first, before the world began’ (Prov 8:22-23). (…) By the time that John writes his Gospel, the Word is close to being recognized as a personal being, and it has roles relating to the manner in which God created the world and to the way in which God reveals himself to the world that he brought into being. Moffatt [whose English translation of the New Testament was published in 1913], realizing the difficulty in finding a term equivalent in meaning to the one used by John, transliterates the Greek term: ‘the Logos existed in the very beginning’ [see also Hart’s translation below or The Orthodox New Testament, 2000)]; while Phillips [New Testament translation published in 1958] at least makes an effort to give his translation meaning: ‘at the beginning God expressed himself.’

“Though the Greek term logos may be rendered ‘word,’ it would be wrong to think it indicates primarily a grammatical or lexical unit in a sentence. Greek has two other terms which primarily identify individual words, whether they occur in a list (as in a dictionary) or in a sentence. The term logos, though applicable to an individual word, is more accurately understood as an expression with meaning; that is, it is ‘a message,’ ‘a communication,’ and, as indicated, a type of ‘revelation.’ A literal translation, therefore, more or less equivalent to English ‘word,’ is frequently misleading.

“In some languages there are additional complications. For example, in some languages the term ‘word’ is feminine in gender, and therefore any reference to it must also be feminine [or neuter — see German below]. As a result, the possible use of pronouns in reference to Jesus Christ can be confusing. Furthermore, in many languages a term such as ‘word’ must be possessed. One cannot speak about ‘the word’ without indicating who spoke the word, since words do not exist apart from the persons who utter them.

“Because of these and other difficulties, many translators treat the term ‘Word’ or Logos as a title, and that is precisely what it is. The very fact that it is normally capitalized in English translations marks it as a title; but in many languages the fact of its being a title must be more clearly indicated by some explicit expression, for example, ‘the one who was called the Word’ [see Xicotepec De Juárez Totonac below] or ‘the one known as the Word’ [see German below] In this way the reader can understand from the beginning that ‘Word’ is to be understood as a designation for a person.

“Therefore, this first sentence in John 1:1 may be rendered ‘Before the world was created, the one who was known as the Word existed’ or ‘… the person called the Word existed.’ In languages which employ honorific forms it is particularly appropriate to use such an indication with the title ‘Word.’ Such a form immediately marks the designation as the title of deity or of a very important personage, depending, of course, upon the usage in the language in question.”

Translation for “Logos” include:

  • Xicotepec De Juárez Totonac: “the one who is called the Word”
  • Sayula Popoluca: “the Word by which God is known”
  • Miahuatlán Zapotec: “one who revealed God’s thoughts”
  • Alekano: “God’s wise Speech”
  • Tojolabal: “he who told us about God” (Source for this and above: M. Larson / B. Moore in Notes on Translation February, 1970, p. 1-125.)
  • Yatzachi Zapotec: “Jesus Christ the person who is the Word, he who gives eternal life”
  • Eastern Highland Otomi: “the Word that gives new life to our hearts”
  • Garifuna: “the one named Word, the one who gives life” (Source for this and two above: John Beekman in Notes on Translation 12, November 1964, p. 1ff.)
  • Tzeltal de Oxchuc y Tenejapa (Highland Tzeltal): te C’opile: “the Word” (in a new, 2001 version of the New Testament to avoid the previous translation “the Word of God,” a term also used for “Bible.” — Source: Robert Bascom)
  • Mairasi: “The Message” (source: Enggavoter 2004)
  • German: Der, der ‘das Wort’ ist: “He who is ‘the Word'” — this solution circumvents the different gender of Jesus (masculine) and “das Wort” (neuter) (in Neue Genfer Übersetzung 2009 / BasisBibel 2021) / Zürcher Bibel, 2007 revision: “the Word, the Logos” (das Wort, der Logos — “Logos” is defined as masculine)
  • Polish: Just like in German, “Word” (Słowo) is neuter, whereas “Jesus” is masculine. The various translations switch to a masculine form in the John’s prologue at different points. (For more tap or click here.)

    The recent Przekład Otwarty translation switching in verse 14 with the masculine pełen: jaką jedyny ma od Ojca – pełen łaski i prawdy (“[glory] such as the only one has from the Father, full of grace and truth”). “The Greek form does not settle what ‘full’ refers to: πλήρης looks like a nominative, agreeing with ὁ λόγος at the start of the verse, but Abbott-Smith takes it here as indeclinable, and Codex Bezae has the accusative, agreeing with ‘glory.’ We chose the masculine because the fullness belongs to the Person: 1:16 speaks of “his fullness”, and 1:17 names Jesus Christ as the one through whom grace and truth came. The neuter pełne would agree with the noun Słowo, but in this sentence it could also be read with ciało (“flesh”), which is neuter too. The masculine pełen can go only with the Word as a Person or with ‘the only one’ just before it, and both are the same Person. The masculine that refers to the Word beyond doubt comes in 1:15 (To był Ten, ‘This was he’).” (Source: Piotr Szuszkiewicz)

  • Anindilyakwa: Originally translated as N-ayakwa-murra or “he having the properties of a word/message/language.” Since this was not understandable, it is now “Jesus Christ, the one who revealed God who was hidden from us.” (Source: Julie Waddy in The Bible Translator 2004, p. 452ff. )
  • Kwang: “He who is called ‘The reality (lit: the body) of the Word of God himself’” (source: Mark Vanderkooi)
  • Kikuyu: Ũhoro or “Affair”/”Matter” (source: Leonard Beecher in The Bible Translator 1964, p. 117ff. )
  • Dholuo: Wach: “Word” (but also: “problem,” “issue,” or “matter”) (source: Jim Harries)
  • Matumbi: Liyi’gi’yo or “spoken Word” (as opposed to yi’gi’ya or “the word to be heard”) (source: Pioneer Bible Translators, project-specific notes in Paratext)
  • Assamese: বাক্য (bakya) / Bengali: বাক্ (bāk) / Telugu: వాక్యము (vākyamu) / Hindi (some versions): वचन (vachan). All these terms are derived from the Sanskrit vach (वाच्), meaning “speech,” “voice,” “talk,” “language,” or “sound.” Historically, “in early Vedic literature, vach was the creative power in the universe. Sometimes she appears alone, sometimes with Prajapati, the creator god. She is called ‘Mother of the Vedas.’ All of this suggest an interesting parallel with logos. From the Upanishads on [late Vedic period, the Vedic period overall stretches from c. 1500–500 BC), however, she retreats from her creative role and becomes identified with Saraswati, the goddess of speech.”
  • Sanskrit and Hindi (some versions): शब्द (shabda), meaning “speech sound.” Historically, “Shabda is of importance from the Upanishads on. As shabda-brahman it is eternal and is the ground of the phenomenal world.” (Source for this and above: R.M. Clark in The Bible Translator 1962, p. 81ff. )
  • Sinhala: ධර්මයාණෝ (dharmayāṇō), meaning “philosophy” or “religion.”
  • Tongan: Folofola: “Originally, the term is used in the kingly language and is related to the meaning of unrolling the mat, an indispensable item in Tongan traditions. The mats, especially those with beautiful and elaborate designs, are usually rolled up and kept carefully until the visit of a guest to the house. The term thus evokes to the Tongans the idea of God’s Word being unrolled to reveal his love and salvation for mankind.” (Source: Joseph Hong in The Bible Translator 1994, p. 329ff. )
  • Pitjantjatjara: Tjukurnga: “Dreaming” (“a form of religious mapping, an ideological construction whereby the universe is rendered understandable in religious terms; it is the collection of myths, stories, and practices by which the land is perceived and through which a person makes sense of the world.” For more tap or click here.)

    “Like many crucial terms [Tjukurnga] is thankfully untranslatable. Its possible meanings are: (1) story; (2) Dreaming or Law (with a capital; there is an emerging Aboriginal desire for this sense of the word not to be given an English equivalent any longer); (3) message; (4) news; (5) individual word; (6) what someone says, thing said; and (7) birthmark, wart, which is regarded as showing something that is distinct and personal.

    “It seems that with tjukurpa [the root form of Tjukurnga] is not so much the untranslatability of Christian and Aboriginal ideas but the potential for a word such as this to release the controls and spin out in all sorts of unexpected direction. For what takes off here is precisely the ‘Word.’ Not only does tjukurpa designate the Word, the logos, the meaningful expression or creative principle — or indeed story, saying, message, news, birthmark, Law … — but it is also used at times for ‘parable’ (Mark 4:13 et al.), for the translation of ‘word’ elsewhere (Mark 4:14), and for ‘gospel’ itself. Thus, Mark 1:1 has Tjukurpa Palya, ‘good Tjukurpa‘ (with a capital!) for ‘gospel.’ (…) Once let loose, it is as though tjukurpa cannot stop, for the whole mini-Bible, comprising most of the New Testament and sections of the Hebrew Bible, is itself Tjukurpa Polya: Irititja munu Kuwaritja, ‘The good Tjukurpa: old and new.’ (Source: Boer 2008, p. 154ff.)

  • Ajië: Nô (click or tap here to read an explanation by Maurice Leenhardt — in The Bible Translator 1951, p. 154ff. ):

    “There are other words that the learned translators of the West have in vain tried to render into rich tongues as French or Latin. They found obscure expressions for the common ‘word’ or ‘speech’ (…) It would seem that these words would present insurmountable difficulties for the translator in primitive languages. Missionaries of the Loyalty Islands could not find the word to translate ‘Word,’ nor have they imagined that there could be a corresponding term in the native language. They simply introduced the Greek word into the vocabulary, pronouncing it in the native fashion, ‘In the beginning the Logos’. These people are intelligent; and do not appreciate pronouncing words which make no sense whatsoever. However, when a Caledonian speaks French, he translates his thoughts as they seem to him the most adequate. He can easily express himself relative to the man who has conceived good things, has said them, or done them. He simply describes such a person as, ‘The word of this man is good’. Thought, speech, and action are all included in the New Caledonian term nô. In speaking of an adulterous man one may say, ‘He has done an evil word’. One may speak of a chief who does not think, order, or act correctly as, ‘His word is not good’. The expression ‘the Word of God’ is limited in our speech to meaning of the divine Scriptures, but in New Caledonian it includes the thoughts and acts of God, ‘God said and it was done’. The New Caledonian has no difficulty in seeing the Word becoming action, becoming flesh, the word becoming a physical reality. Our deceased colleague Laffay once said: ‘I prefer to read John in the Ajië rather than in French’.

  • Spanish / Portuguese / Italian: Palabra / Palavra / Parola vs. Verbo. In all of these Romance languages, there is an older version of “Word” (Verbo), that today primarily means “verb” or “action,” mostly used by older Bible translations, and a more modern word (Palabra / Palavra / Parola) which primarily means “Word,” mostly used by newer Bible translations. This not only creates two different historical translations for a major theological term in those languages but also opens up new semantic facets when taking the meaning of Verbo in a modern context. (See Mindy Misener in The Christian Century ). Note that La Biblia Latinoamérica (publ. 1972) has “el Verbo (la Palabra)” in John 1:1.

The recent English New Testament translation by David Bentley Hart (2017), that uses the transliteration Logos for the Greek Λόγος, says this about its translation (p. 549ff.): “In certain special instances it is quite impossible for a translator to reduce [Λόγος] to a single word in English, or in any other tongue (though one standard Chinese version of the Bible renders logos in the prologue of John’s Gospel as 道 (dao), which is about as near as any translation could come to capturing the scope and depth of the word’s religious, philosophical, and metaphoric associations in those verses, while also carrying the additional meaning of “speech” or “discourse”).”

Below you can find some background of this remarkable Chinese translation (click or tap here to read more):

Dao 道, which developed into a central concept of classical Chinese philosophy, originally carried the meaning of “path” and “(main) road.” From there it developed into “leading” and “teaching” as well as “say” and “speak.”

As early as the 7th century BC, however, dao appears with the meaning “method.” With this and the derived meaning of “the (right) way” and “moral principle,” dao became one of the central concepts of the Confucian writings.

In Daoist writings (especially in the Daodejing ), dao goes far beyond the Confucian meaning to take on creative qualities.

With this new compendium of meaning, the term became suitable for numerous foreign religions to represent central points of their doctrine, including Buddhism (as a translation for bodhi — “enlightenment”), Judaism (similar to the Confucians as the “right [Jewish] way”), and Islam (likewise the “right [Muslim] way”).

The Jesuits, who had intensively dealt with Confucianism from the 16th century on, also took over dao as the “correct (Catholic) way,” and the so-called Figurists, a group of Jesuits in the 18th century who saw the Messianic figure of Jesus Christ outlined in Chinese history, went so far as to point to the existence of John’s Logos in the dao of Daodejing.

In later Catholic Bible translations, dao was rarely used as a translation for Logos; instead, the Latin Verbum (from the Latin Vulgate) was transliterated, or yan 言 — “language”, “meaning” — was used, usually with the prefix sheng 圣 — “holy” (also used by the Russian Orthodox Church).

Protestant translations, however, began to use dao as a translation for Logos in the 1830s and have largely retained this practice to this day.

Some voices went so far as to describe Logos and dao as a point of contact between Christianity and the Chinese religions. By its gradual shaping in Greek and Jewish philosophy, Logos had become an appropriate “word vessel.” Similarly, dao’s final formation in Daodejing had also assumed the necessary capacity to serve as a translation for Logos.

The origins of dao and Logos have some clear differences, not the least being the personal relationship of Logos as the Son of God with God the Father. But it is remarkable that using dao as the translation of Logos emulates John’s likely intention with the use of Logos: the central concept of the philosophical and religious ideas of the target culture was used to translate the central concept of Christian theology.

This was not possible in the case of European cultures, which for the most part have offered only translations such as Word or Verbum, terms without any prior philosophical or religious meaning. Only advanced civilizations like China — or ancient Greece — were able to accomplish that. (Summarized version of: Zetzsche, Jost. Aspekte der chinesischen Bibelübersetzung. R. Malek (ed.) Fallbeispiel China. Beiträge zur Religion, Theologie und Kirche im chinesischen Kontext. Nettetal: Steyler Verlag, 1996.)

Peng Kuo-Wei adds this perspective (in Noss / Houser, p. 885): “The Chinese term chosen for logos is not hua (‘word’ or ‘utterance’) but dao from which the term ‘Taoism’ is derived and which can denote a general principle, a way (concrete or abstract), or reason. Thus, Chinese readers can understand that the dao of God is not just words spoken by God, but it constitutes the guiding salvific principle underlying the whole biblical account, including his action in history and teaching and action of Jesus whom he sent. Jesus is the dao of God because his ministry, death and resurrection comprises the fulfillment and realization of God’s theological and ethical principles for humanity.”

For another use of dao in the Chinese Bible, see the Way.

The English translation by Sarah Ruden (2021) uses true account in John 1. She explains (p. lxiii): “Logos can mean merely ‘statement’ or ‘speech,’ but it also has lofty philosophical uses, especially in the opening of the Book of John, where it is probably connected to the Stoic conception of the divine reasoning posited to pervade the universe. The essential connotation here is not language but the lasting, indisputable, and morally cogent truth of numbers, as displayed in correct financial accounting: this is the most basic sense of logos.” (For other uncommon English translations, see Translation commentary on John 1:1.

Famously, Goethe also had Faust ponder the translation of Logos into German in the first part of the play of the same name (publ. 1808). The German original is followed by the English translation of Walter Kaufmann (publ. 1963) (click or tap here to read more):

Geschrieben steht: “Im Anfang war das Wort!”
Hier stock ich schon! Wer hilft mir weiter fort?
Ich kann das Wort so hoch unmöglich schätzen,
Ich muß es anders übersetzen,
Wenn ich vom Geiste recht erleuchtet bin.
Geschrieben steht: Im Anfang war der Sinn.
Bedenke wohl die erste Zeile,
Daß deine Feder sich nicht übereile!
Ist es der Sinn, der alles wirkt und schafft?
Es sollte stehn: Im Anfang war die Kraft!
Doch, auch indem ich dieses niederschreibe,
Schon warnt mich was, daß ich dabei nicht bleibe.
Mir hilft der Geist! Auf einmal seh ich Rat
Und schreibe getrost: Im Anfang war die Tat!

It says: “In the beginning was the Word.”
Already I am stopped. It seems absurd.
The Word does not deserve the highest prize,
I must translate it otherwise
If I am well inspired and not blind.
It says: In the beginning was the Mind.
Ponder that first line, wait and see,
Lest you should write too hastily
Is mind the all-creating source?
It ought to say: In the beginning there was Force.
Yet something warns me as l grasp the pen,
That my translation must be changed again.
The spirit helps me. Now it is exact.
I write: In the beginning was the Act.

See also this devotion on YouVersion .

woman (Jesus addressing his mother)

Stephen Hre Kio reports on the translation of the Greek word into Falam Chin that is translated as “woman” in English, specifically when it refers to Jesus addressing his mother (see The Bible Translator 1988, p. 442ff. ):

“No child would call his parents by their names, either half name or full name, in private or in public. To do so would show disrespect of a high degree. It would be an open insult. The only possible situation where the children might address their parents by name would be where a combination of an endearment title and the name was used as a form of introduction, and the listeners were people not familiar with the parents. For example, the son Za Hu can introduce his father to an unfamiliar audience by saying, ‘This is my father U Kaw Kaw. . .’ If he does it without saying ‘my father,’ Za Hu is creating a distance between himself and his father, but not disrespect. If he addresses his father as ‘Man!’ and his mother as ‘Woman!,’ he is in real trouble. He would be creating an image of being uncultured, disrespectful and downright contemptuous.

“That is precisely the situation we find in John 2:4 and 19:26, where Jesus addressed his mother as ‘woman’ (Greek gunai). To translate this utterance literally would be Nunau in Falam Chin, and this would be offensive to Falam readers. Although we find the same utterance in John 20:13, by two angels who say to Mary, ‘Woman, why are you crying?,’ this is not as offensive as the other uses. The difference lies in the person who said it. For the angels to say to the woman “Woman,” is acceptable. But for the son to say ‘Woman’ to his mother demonstrates utter disrespect and contempt or even extreme anger. That is precisely what we found the text of John put in the mouth of Jesus. But is that actually what Jesus meant when he said ‘Woman’? Fortunately, we are told that ‘Jesus’ use of ‘woman’ (RSV) in direct address was normal and polite. . . It showed neither disrespect nor lack of love. . .’ (quoted from: Newman / Nida 1980). In Falam, the word ‘woman’ Nunau, will have to be avoided and replaced by Ka Nu, meaning ‘My Mother.’ This is the only choice possible in the situation. ‘Woman’ (Nunau) would be insulting, and ‘mother’ Nu Nu would be childish.”

Abel Tabalaka (in Scriptura 81 (2002), p. 453ff. ) reports something similar from the translation into the apparent semantic equivalent mosadi into Tswana. Readers found this also unacceptably rude and it might therefore distort the meaning of the Greek text (even though it’s used in all Tswana Bibles except the the 1993 paraphrase by Biblica where the word is just skipped.)

In Elhomwe and Matumbi it is translated as “mother,” because “woman” would be impolite. (Source: project-specific translation notes in Paratext)

See also formal pronoun: Jesus and his mother, Woman (Luke 13:12), and Woman (John 20).

mixture of myrrh with aloes

The Greek in John 19:39 that is translated as a “mixture of myrrh with aloes” refers a mixture of “a fragrant resin used for embalming the dead” (myrrh) and a “powdered aromatic sandalwood, spoken of as providing perfume for the bed or clothes” (aloes) (source: Newman / Nida),

Ojitlán Chinantec translates it as “fragrant powder, resin powder and wood powder mixed” and Chol as “a wood that gives a fragrant smell when it is rotten.” (Source: M. Larson / B. Moore in Notes on Translation February 1970, p. 1-125.)

See also myrrh and aloe.

Translation commentary on John 15:20

Remember what I told you (so also New American Bible) is literally “remember the word that I said to you” (Revised Standard Version). The reference is to the words of Jesus that follow (No slave is greater than his master), and so New English Bible translates “Remember what I said,” while Jerusalem Bible renders “Remember the words I said to you.” No slave is greater than his master refers back to 13.16. The emphasis in Chapter 13 is on imitating the humility of Jesus, while here it relates to the necessity of sharing his fate.

Remember does not necessarily imply here that the disciples had forgotten what Jesus had said. An appropriate equivalent may be “Think about what I told you.”

In this context greatness may be interpreted as a matter of importance, for example, “A slave is not more important than his master” or “No slave surpasses his master in importance.” In some languages the relation may be inverted by saying “A master is always more important than his slave.”

If they persecuted me is a condition true to fact, as was the “if” clause in verse 18. The meaning is that they did persecute Jesus, and so they will also persecute his disciples. Though the clause If they persecuted me is formally a condition, it states a fact, and in combination with the following clause must be somewhat altered in some languages, for example, “They persecuted me, and they will persecute you too” or “they caused me to suffer, and accordingly, they will cause you to suffer also.”

If they obeyed my teaching is literally “if they kept my word.” But the use of the verb “to keep” in this context has the meaning of “to obey”; and “the word” of Jesus is a summary term for his teaching.

Throughout verses 18-20 the description of the world’s attitude has been completely negative, but here Jesus suddenly seems to change; there are some who obey his teaching, and so there will also be some who will obey the teaching of his followers. That is, Jesus is indicating that the attitude of the world toward his disciples will not be completely negative, just as it was not completely negative toward him. Some did respond to his teaching (for example, the disciples themselves), and so some will also respond to the teaching of his followers. Some commentators assume a negative implication behind Jesus’ words here, for example, New English Bible “they will follow your teaching as little as they have followed mine.” This interpretation is apparently the basis for Die Bibel im heutigen Deutsch: “as little as they have believed my word, so shall they believe yours.” However, even though one might like to read this meaning into the present passage, especially in view of the negative implications in verse 21, it is difficult to arrive at this meaning on the basis of the Greek sentence structure, and so it is probably better not to translate with negative implications. Jesus’ words should be taken to mean that if there are some who persecuted him, there were also some who listened to him; and accordingly, if there are some who persecute the disciples, there will also be some who will respond to their message. One may, therefore, translate the second part of verse 20 “Some persecuted me, and they will persecute you also, but others obeyed what I said, and they will obey also what you say.”

Quoted with permission from Newman, Barclay M. and Nida, Eugene A. A Handbook on the Gospel of John. (UBS Handbook Series). New York: UBS, 1980. For this and other handbooks for translators see here .

Translation commentary on John 16:25

These things is emphatic in the Greek sentence structure; and the word translated figures of speech is the same word translated parable in 10.6 (see there). The reference to Jesus’ use of figures of speech in teaching must not be limited to the analogy of the woman in childbirth. It may include as well the symbolism involved in washing the disciples’ feet (13.8-11) and the parable of the vine and the branches (15.1-17); and it may even be enlarged to include such discourses as that of the shepherd (10.1-18). In fact, the reference may be to everything that Jesus has thus far taught his disciples, including this last discourse, but not limited to it.

In many languages, figures of speech is rendered “likeness words” or “words which show likenesses.” In some, one may even use such a phrase as “picture words.” In others, such a descriptive phrase may be employed as “calling something by another name” or “using other words to speak of the same thing.” In general, however, the equivalent of “parables” is “stories” or “stories which teach.” A variety of expressions may be used in interpreting figurative language. Fortunately, figurative language is a universal phenomenon of speech, and its existence in any and all languages is readily recognized, though it may be described or spoken of in different ways.

The Greek word translated plainly (so also New English Bible, Jerusalem Bible) is used in 7.4 in the phrase to be well known (see there). This word (Greek parrēsia) may mean “openly,” “in boldness,” or “plainly.” New American Bible translates “in plain speech,” while the whole phrase is translated “let you know plainly” by Moffatt; “tell you plainly” by Goodspeed and Phillips, and “tell you … absolutely clearly” by Barclay. In some languages a qualifier, such as plainly, must refer to the manner in which people comprehend, not the way a person speaks. Hence, one may render the last part of verse 25 “I will speak to you about the Father in such a way that you will clearly understand.”

Quoted with permission from Newman, Barclay M. and Nida, Eugene A. A Handbook on the Gospel of John. (UBS Handbook Series). New York: UBS, 1980. For this and other handbooks for translators see here .

Translation commentary on John 17:24

You have given them to me is emphatic in Greek; it translates “which (neuter singular) you have given me” of the Greek text. Some Greek manuscripts have “whom (masculine plural) you have given me,” but this is an obvious attempt to simplify a difficult reading. John uses the neuter singular pronoun to emphasize the unity of the persons in the group.

If them in the last clause of verse 23 does refer to the disciples, as suggested above, the same is true of them in this clause. It may be helpful to make this explicit by translating them as “my disciples.”

I want them to be with me where I am is more literally “I want that where I am they may be with me.” By placing the accent mark differently on the Greek verb I am, it is possible to translate “where I am going,” but no translator does so. The desire of Jesus that his disciples be with him is not a selfish wish; it is in keeping with the intention of the Father. Jesus’ will is always identical with that of the Father (see 4.34; 5.30; and 6.38). Moreover, Jesus’ prayer does not relate to the present time, nor can it be fulfilled in this world. Jesus is thinking of the final consummation, when the disciples will see his true glory.

There may be complications in the use of the present tense in the clause where I am, for it may suggest that Jesus desires his followers remain where he is at the time of his prayer. Accordingly, it may be necessary in some languages to translate “I want them to be with me where I will be” or “… remain with me where I will be.” As already noted, in some instances there is a shift of time viewpoint between the time of Jesus’ speaking and the temporal perspective of the author as he writes.

Good News Translation changes the Greek noun phrase, “before the creation of the world,” into a verb phrase, before the world was made. In some languages it may be necessary to translate “before you created the world.”

It may be necessary to break up the rather involved structure of verse 24 and to conclude a sentence after the glory you gave me. The final expression of cause may then be introduced as a separate sentence by saying “You gave it to me because you loved me before the world was made.”

Quoted with permission from Newman, Barclay M. and Nida, Eugene A. A Handbook on the Gospel of John. (UBS Handbook Series). New York: UBS, 1980. For this and other handbooks for translators see here .

Translation commentary on John 18:31

In Greek the pronoun you is emphatic, and so Good News Translation translates You yourselves (note Moffatt and Jerusalem Bible “Take him yourselves”).

The Greek expression “the Jews” is rendered they since they were mentioned only three verses earlier as the Jewish authorities in Good News Translation.

Try him according to your own law may be rendered “judge him according to your own laws” or “judge what should be done to him using your own laws to decide.”

In Matthew and Mark no clear indication is given why the Jews brought Jesus to Pilate, instead of putting him to death themselves for blasphemy, a religious crime which carried the death penalty. John tells us they brought Jesus to Pilate because they themselves did not have the authority to put a person to death. There is much controversy among biblical scholars as to whether the Jews at that time did in fact have the authority to inflict the death penalty, even on religious charges. But, even if the Roman government had given the Jews this authority, each case probably required the approval of the Roman government. The overall evidence suggests probably the Roman authorities guarded rather closely the matter of capital punishment, since the Jews might otherwise have put to death persons favorable to the Roman government.

The passive expression we are not allowed must be changed into an active form in some languages. An equivalent might be “The Roman government will not allow us,” but it is also possible to make this statement more specific by identifying Pilate as a representative of the Roman power, for example, “You Romans will not allow us” or “You Romans will not say to us, ‘You can put someone to death’ ” or “… You can try someone and put him to death.”

Quoted with permission from Newman, Barclay M. and Nida, Eugene A. A Handbook on the Gospel of John. (UBS Handbook Series). New York: UBS, 1980. For this and other handbooks for translators see here .

Translation commentary on John 19:23

It was customary to remove the clothing from a condemned man before he was crucified, and according to Roman law his clothes became the property of the executioners. The word translated clothes is the same word used in 13.4 (Good News Translation outer garment). Here the reference is clearly to all clothes that Jesus was wearing.

Although we cannot be sure that the four parts consisted of four individual items of clothing, it may be necessary in some languages to translate as though this were the case, for example, “they took his clothes and divided them, each soldier taking one piece of clothing.”

The four soldiers probably formed a military unit; note Acts 12.4, which speaks of four groups of four soldiers each.

In Greek the clause they also took the robe is literally “also the robe,” and is part of the first sentence. Most translators render these words as a separate sentence or connect them with the following sentence, as Good News Translation does. The robe (many translations “tunic”) was a long garment worn next to the skin. That it was made of one piece of woven cloth, without any seams in it precluded the possibility that it was made of more than one material (note the law of Deut 22.11). This type of garment could be made by an ordinary weaver, so it need not have been expensive. To translate “tunic” as robe may give the impression that it was an outer garment. On the other hand, to use such an expression as “inner garment” may give the impression that it was underwear.

Quoted with permission from Newman, Barclay M. and Nida, Eugene A. A Handbook on the Gospel of John. (UBS Handbook Series). New York: UBS, 1980. For this and other handbooks for translators see here .