complete verse (Matthew 17:23)

Following are a number of back-translations of Matthew 17:23:

  • Uma: “They will kill me, but on the third day I will live again.’ His followers were very sad to hear his words.” (Source: Uma Back Translation)
  • Yakan: “They will kill me. Three days after my death I will come alive again.’ When they heard this, his disciples were very troubled.” (Source: Yakan Back Translation)
  • Western Bukidnon Manobo: “however within three days from my dying, I will come back to life.’ And then his disciples were very troubled.” (Source: Western Bukidnon Manobo Back Translation)
  • Kankanaey: “and they will kill-me, but God will make-me -alive again on the third day.’ When his disciples heard that, they were extremely sad.” (Source: Kankanaey Back Translation)
  • Tagbanwa: “for they will kill me. But I will be made alive again on the third day.’ The disciples were really grieved when they heard that.” (Source: Tagbanwa Back Translation)
  • Tenango Otomi: “When he has been killed, he will resurrect on the third day.’ With this word he told the learners, they were very sad.” (Source: Tenango Otomi Back Translation)

pronoun for "God"

God transcends gender, but most languages are limited to grammatical gender expressed in pronouns. In the case of English, this is traditionally confined to “he” (or in the forms “his,” “him,” and “himself”), “she” (and “her,” “hers,” and “herself”), and “it” (and “its” and “itself”).

Modern Mandarin Chinese, however, offers another possibility. Here, the third-person singular pronoun is always pronounced the same (tā), but it is written differently according to its gender (他 is “he,” 她 is “she,” and 它/牠 is “it” and their respective derivative forms). In each of these characters, the first (or upper) part defines the gender (man, woman, or thing/animal), while the second element gives the clue to its pronunciation.

In 1930, after a full century with dozens of Chinese translations, Bible translator Wang Yuande (王元德) coined a new “godly” pronoun: 祂. Chinese readers immediately knew how to pronounce it: tā. But they also recognized that the first part of that character, signifying something spiritual, clarified that each person of the Trinity has no gender aside from being God.

While the most important Protestant and Catholic Chinese versions respectively have opted not to use 祂, some Bible translations do and it is widely used in hymnals and other Christian materials. Among the translations that use 祂 to refer to “God” were early versions of Lü Zhenzhong’s (呂振中) version (New Testament: 1946, complete Bible: 1970). R.P. Kramers (in The Bible Translator 1956, p. 152ff. ) explains why later versions of Lü’s translation did not continue with this practice: “This new way of writing ‘He,’ however, has created a minor problem of its own: must this polite form be used whenever Jesus is referred to? Lü follows the rule that, wherever Jesus is referred to as a human being, the normal tā (他) is written; where he is referred to as divine, especially after the ascension, the reverential tā (祂) is used.”

In Kouya, Godié, Northern Grebo, Eastern Krahn, Western Krahn, and Guiberoua Béte, all languages of the Kru family in Western Africa, a different kind of system of pronouns is used (click or tap here to read more):

In that system, one kind of pronoun is used for humans (male and female alike) and others for natural elements, non-liquid masses, and some spiritual entities (one other is used for large animals and another one for miscellaneous items). While in these languages the pronoun for spiritual entities used to be employed when referring to God, this has changed into the use of the human pronoun.

Lynell Zogbo (in The Bible Translator 1989, p. 401ff. ) explains: “From informal discussions with young Christians especially, it would appear that, at least for some people, the experience and/or concepts of Christianity are affecting the choice of pronoun for God. Some people explain that God is no longer ‘far away,’ but is somehow tangible and personal. For these speakers God has shifted over into the human category.”

In Kouya, God (the Father) and Jesus are referred to with the human pronoun ɔ, whereas the Holy Spirit is referred to with a non-human pronoun. (Northern Grebo and Western Krahn make a similar distinction.)

Eddie Arthur, a former Kouya Bible translation consultant, says the following: “We tried to insist that this shouldn’t happen, but the Kouya team members were insistent that the human pronoun for the Spirit would not work.”

In Burmese, the pronoun ko taw (ကိုယ်တော်) is used either as 2nd person (you) or 3rd person (he, him, his) reference. “This term clearly has its root in the religious language in Burmese. No ordinary persons are addressed or known by this pronoun because it is reserved for Buddhist monks, famous religious teachers, and in the case of Christianity, the Trinity.” (Source: Gam Seng Shae in The Bible Translator 2002, p. 202ff. )

In Thai, the pronoun phra`ong (พระองค์) is used, a gender-neutral pronoun which must refer to a previously introduced royal or divine being. Similarly, in Northern Khmer, which is spoken in Thailand, “an honorific divine pronoun” is used for the pronoun referring to the persons of the Trinity (source: David Thomas in The Bible Translator 1993, p. 445 ). In Urak Lawoi’, another language spoken in Thailand, the translation often uses tuhat (ตูฮัด) — “God” — ”as a divine pronoun where Thai has phra’ong even though it’s actually a noun.” (Source for Thai and Urak Lawoi’: Stephen Pattemore)

The English “Contemporary Torah” addresses the question of God and gendered pronouns by mostly avoiding pronouns in the first five books of the Hebrew Bible/Old Testament (unless God is referred to as “lord,” “father,” “king,” or “warrior”). It does that by either using passive constructs (“He gave us” vs. “we were given”), by using the adjective “divine” or by using “God” rather than a pronoun.

Some Protestant and Orthodox English Bibles use a referential capitalized spelling when referring to the persons of the Trinity with “He,” “His,” “Him,” or “Himself.” This includes for instance the New American Standard Bible or The Orthodox New Testament, but most translations do not. Two other languages where this is also done (in most Bible translations) are Twents as well as the closely related Indonesian and Malay. In the latter two languages this follows the language usage according to the Qur’an, which in turn predicts that usage (see Soesilo in The Bible Translator 1991, p. 442ff. and The Bible Translator 1997, p. 433ff. ).

See also first person pronoun referring to God.

Learn more on Bible Odyssey: Gender of God .

Translation: Chinese

在现代汉语中,第三人称单数代词的读音都是一样的(tā),但是写法并不一样,取决于性别以及是否有生命,即男性为“他”,女性为“她”,动物、植物和无生命事物为“它”(在香港和台湾的汉语使用,动物则为“牠”)。这些字的部首偏旁表明了性别(男人、女人、动物、无生命事物),而另一偏旁通常旁提示发音。

到1930年为止,基督教新教《圣经》经过整整一百年的翻译已经拥有了十几个译本,当时的一位圣经翻译者王元德新造了一个“神圣的”代词“祂”,偏旁“礻”表示神明。一般汉语读者会立即知道这字的发音是tā,而这个偏旁表示属灵的事物,因此他们明白这个字指出,三位一体的所有位格都没有性别之分,而单单是上帝。

然而,最重要的新教圣经译本(1919年的《和合本》)和天主教圣经译本(1968年的《思高圣经》)都没有采用“祂”;虽然如此,许多其他的圣经译本采用了这个字,另外还广泛出现在赞美诗和其他基督信仰的书刊中。(资料来源:Zetzsche)

《吕振中译本》的几个早期版本也使用“祂”来指称“上帝”;这个译本的《新约》于1946年译成,整部《圣经》于1970年完成。克拉默斯(Kramers)指出:“‘他’的这种新写法(即‘祂’)产生了一个小问题,就是在指称耶稣的时候,是否一律使用这个敬语代词?《吕振中译本》遵循的原则是,在称呼耶稣这个人的时候,用一般的‘他’,而在称呼耶稣神性的时候,特别是升天之后的耶稣,则用尊称‘祂’。”

Translator: Simon Wong

Translation commentary on Matthew 17:23

And he will be raised on the third day, except for the shift to a third person form, translates the same words found in 16.21.

Were … distressed is the same verb translated “was sorry” in 14.9; elsewhere in Matthew’s Gospel it is used in 18.31; 19.22; 26.22, 37. It is sometimes necessary to say “they were very sorry to hear this” or “they were sad because of what he said.”

They refers to the disciples, as Good News Translation indicates.

Quoted with permission from Newman, Barclay M. and Stine, Philip C. A Handbook on the Gospel of Matthew. (UBS Handbook Series). New York: UBS, 1988. For this and other handbooks for translators see here .

SIL Translator’s Notes on Matthew 17:23



17:23a

They will kill Him: Here, Jesus was still speaking about himself. In some languages, it will be more natural for Jesus to speak about himself using the pronoun “me” rather than Him. For example:

they will kill me

and: This is the conjunction that usually joins the next event to the previous one. Since the idea that someone could come back to life after dying is unexpected, some English versions translate this conjunction as “but.” For example:

but on the third day (New Living Translation (2004))

If it would be clearer in your language to make the contrast explicit, you should do so.

on the third day: This phrase indicates that Jesus would come back to life on the third day after he was killed. That is, the first day (Friday) he was killed and buried. The second day (Saturday) he was in the tomb. The third day (Sunday) he rose from death.

Here are some other ways to translate this phrase:

three days later
-or-
three days after ⌊my death

He will be raised: The Greek verb that the Berean Standard Bible translates as will be raised means that Jesus will be raised from the dead. He will be brought back to life (by God).

Here, Jesus continued to talk about himself. In some languages, it will be more natural for Jesus to use the pronoun “I” rather than He. For example:

I will be raised

This verb is passive. Here are some other ways to translate it:

Use a passive verb. For example:

he will be brought back to life (God’s Word)
-or-
I will be raised from death

Use an active verb. For example:

God⌋ will bring him back to life
-or-

God⌋ will make me live again

17:23b

And: This is the connecting word that usually joins the next event to the previous one. Some English versions do not translate it here.

Here are some other ways to connect 17:23b to 17:23a:

Then (God’s Word)
-or-
When the disciples heard these words

the disciples were deeply grieved: The Greek phrase that the Berean Standard Bible translates as deeply grieved means that the disciples became extremely sad. They did not understand the meaning of Jesus’ words about his return to life after death. They only understood that he was going to be killed. They did not understand that it was God’s plan for him to die.

Here is another way to translate this clause:

the disciples became very sad (God’s Word)

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