formal pronoun: Jesus addressing his disciples and common people

Like many languages (but unlike Greek or Hebrew or English), Tuvan uses a formal vs. informal 2nd person pronoun (a familiar vs. a respectful “you”). Unlike other languages that have this feature, however, the translators of the Tuvan Bible have attempted to be very consistent in using the different forms of address in every case a 2nd person pronoun has to be used in the translation of the biblical text.

As Voinov shows in Pronominal Theology in Translating the Gospels (in: The Bible Translator 2002, p. 210ff. ), the choice to use either of the pronouns many times involved theological judgment. While the formal pronoun can signal personal distance or a social/power distance between the speaker and addressee, the informal pronoun can indicate familiarity or social/power equality between speaker and addressee.

Here, Jesus is addressing his disciples, individuals and/or crowds with the formal pronoun, showing respect.

In Nepali translations, Jesus addresses his disciples and other people with the medium honorific pronoun timīlē (तिमीले) or timīlēharū (तिमीलेहरू). His disciples respond with a high honorific pronoun. (Source: Chitra Chhetri in The Bible Translator 2009, p. 73ff. )

In most Dutch translations, Jesus addresses his disciples and common people with the informal pronoun, whereas they address him with the formal form.

See also formal 2nd person plural pronoun (Japanese).

Christ the grapevine (icon)

Following is a contemporary Ukrainian Orthodox icon of Christ as the grapevine by Ulyana Tomkevych.

 

Orthodox Icons are not drawings or creations of imagination. They are in fact writings of things not of this world. Icons can represent our Lord Jesus Christ, the Virgin Mary, and the Saints. They can also represent the Holy Trinity, Angels, the Heavenly hosts, and even events. Orthodox icons, unlike Western pictures, change the perspective and form of the image so that it is not naturalistic. This is done so that we can look beyond appearances of the world, and instead look to the spiritual truth of the holy person or event. (Source )

complete verse (John 15:4)

Following are a number of back-translations of John 15:4:

  • Uma: “‘Remain in-harmony [mutual-life] with me, and I also with you. A branch that is broken off from the tree trunk does not bear-fruit. A branch must definitely stick to the trunk in order to bear-fruit. So also you: You will only bear-fruit if you remain in-harmony with me.” (Source: Uma Back Translation)
  • Yakan: “You shall remain with/in me and I also will remain with/in you. Take a branch for a parable (lit. parable branch) the branches cannot bear fruit by themselves only if they are not separated from the stock do they bear fruit. Likewise you, you cannot do good if you do not remain with me.” (Source: Yakan Back Translation)
  • Western Bukidnon Manobo: “Don’t separate from me just like I also will not separate from you. There is no branch which can fruit if it separates from the body of the plant. And you also, if you separate from me, you cannot fruit, which is to say, you cannot do good.” (Source: Western Bukidnon Manobo Back Translation)
  • Kankanaey: “Continue being-united-with me and I will also continue being-united-with you. The branch of the grape, it has no way to bear-fruit if it is separated from its base. It’s the same with you, because your faith will have no fruit if you don’t continue to be united-with me.'” (Source: Kankanaey Back Translation)
  • Tagbanwa: “Hold fast to me. I will hold fast to you too. Because a branch can’t bear fruit by itself alone but only if it’s connected to the trunk. As for you, it’s like that too. You can’t be-really-fruitful unless you hold fast to me.” (Source: Tagbanwa Back Translation)
  • Tenango Otomi: “Do not forsake me and likewise I do not forsake you. A branch cannot bear fruit when it is alone and not attached to the vine. It is like that for you. You cannot live good lives if you forsake me.” (Source: Tenango Otomi Back Translation)
  • Kupsabiny: “Cling to me and I will remain where you are. The branch of a grapevine will not yield fruits when it is not attached to the grapevine. It is like that for you. You will do nothing good if you don’t remain in me.” (Source: Kupsabiny Back Translation)
  • Bariai: “You must adhere to me, and then I will adhere to you. No tree branch is able to have fruit [from] nothing. It must adhere to its tree (lit. mother) and so have fruit. It’s like that also for you. If you don’t adhere to me, your work isn’t going to have fruit either.” (Source: Bariai Back Translation)

vine

The Hebrew, Greek, Ge’ez, and Latin that is translated in English typically as “vine” is translated in Lak as къюмайтӀутӀул мурхьра: “the (grape-) cluster tree.”

Vitaly Voinov tells this story: “Laks (who live in the mountainous regions of Dagestan) historically have had no experience with planting and tending vineyards. They buy grapes at the market or the store, but that’s about all they know of grape growing. Thus, in field testing, none of the readers could picture the primary image of this chapter. The translator’s initial attempt of rendering ‘vine’ as ‘grape stalk’ met with complete non-understanding. After much discussion of the problem and potential solutions, we settled on what one of the field testing respondents suggested to remedy the problem: ‘vine’ was rendered as ‘the (grape-)cluster tree’ (къюмайтӀутӀул мурхьра). Technically grapes of course don’t grow on trees, but something had to be put in the text, and it had to be said in a way that the average reader/hearer could understand it. The Lak team could have borrowed the Russian word for ‘vine’ (лоза), but since this is a very low-frequency word in the Russian language, it’s likely that many Laks wouldn’t know the Russian word either. So the team settled for a reduction of accuracy in order to achieve greater clarity. After all, the primary point of importance in this passage is not a horticultural analysis, but a metaphorical comparison to the spiritual world, to the relationship between the Father, His Son, and the followers of Jesus. This rendering allows readers to get to the core of this meaning without getting tangled up in unknown terms.”

In Elhomwe it is translated as “tree of grapes” (source: project-specific translation notes in Paratext), Akan (Fante dialect) and Ewe have “wine tree” (source: Anthony Badu in Journal of Mother-Tongue Biblical Hermeneutics and Theology 2021, p. 88ff. ).

 

The Common Grape Vine Vitis vinifera is mentioned more often than any other plant or tree in the Bible. Excavations in Greece have discovered grape seeds dating to 4500 B.C. Egyptian records document the existence of cultivated vines in Canaan as early as 2375 B.C., and subsequent records report trade in vine products around 1360 B.C. and many times thereafter.

The vine is a creeping plant that develops a woody stem when it matures. It grows along the ground until it finds a tree or other object to climb, using tendrils. It bears bunches of small round fruit that are sweet and juicy. Today farmers grow them commercially throughout the Mediterranean area, in South Africa, in North America, and in many other countries. The first reference to the vine in the Bible (Genesis 9:20) tells us that Noah planted a vineyard (Hebrew kerem) and that he made an alcoholic drink from the fruit. Farmers since then have improved on the size, color, and quality of the fruit by careful pruning and selection until now there are at least 65 kinds of grapevines. Like many other plants in temperate areas, the vine has leaves that appear in early spring. After the fruit is picked and the weather gets cold, the leaves drop off and the plant is bare until the following spring. A typical vineyard in Bible times was surrounded by a stone fence. It had a stone tower from which the owner could watch for predators, and a place to squeeze the juice out of the fruits.

The vine is the most frequently cited plant in the Bible, and that alone makes it special. Vines, grapes, raisins, and wine were a major element of Jewish life, so it is not a surprise that the vine and its products are used figuratively probably more than any other Bible plant. After the flood purified the earth at the time of Noah, the vine became the means by which the human race was plunged again into sin (Genesis 9:20). We know from Jacob’s blessing in Genesis 49:11f. and other passages that the vine was the symbol of blessing, prosperity, and happiness. The fact that there were groups like the Nazirites and Rechabites who abstained from drinking wine simply shows the radical self-denial that these people imposed on themselves. A drink offering of wine was an important part of worship (Exodus 29:40), and the image of contentment was “every man under his vine and under his fig tree” (Micah 4:4). Jotham includes the vine in his well-known Parable of the Trees (Judges 9:7ff.). In the New Testament, Jesus rescued a man from humiliation at a wedding party by miraculously providing a fresh supply of wine (John 2:1ff.). Wine becomes a major symbol in the Christian community when Jesus foreshadows his crucifixion by comparing the wine poured out in the Passover celebration to his blood (Matthew 26:27f. et al.). He speaks of the need for Christians to be like the branches of the vine, drawing their nourishment from him, the True Vine (John 15.:1ff.). Nearly every New Testament writer makes some metaphorical reference to the vine or its products.

There are around 65 kinds of grapevines (Vitis vinifera) found in the Northern Hemisphere. They belong to a larger family of creeping plants called Vitaceae, which has over 800 species throughout the world including many in the tropical and warm climates of the world.

Grapevines have occasionally been grown in West Africa (for example, in The Gambia and in northern Nigeria) but are not well known even where they are grown commercially. Attempts at substituting a local tree name have not been entirely successful because the species chosen is usually not cultivated and/or does not have the same economic or social function that the grape had in Israel.
Thus it is probably best to use a transliteration from a major language. However, in parts of Nigeria and perhaps elsewhere, the word grep refers to “grapefruit” and should be avoided in translation. A transliteration from “vine” or “wine” is preferred, although a translator needs to be careful. The English word “vine” refers to any creeping plant, but it also refers to a particular kind of vine that produces grapes (Vitis vinifera). This can be confusing. Furthermore, translators in English-speaking countries should think carefully about what they are going to do with the word “wine.” In The Gambia, Mandinka translators first used “wayini tree” but later concluded that it may be better to have a word for “vine” that is not necessarily identical with “wine.” Bine, from binekaro (“vinegar”), was considered, as was inabi (“grape”) from Arabic.

Languages that borrow the Arabic word inabi must deal with the fact that this word bears an unfortunate resemblance to annabi (“prophet”) and new readers reading “water of inabi” in a context of prophecy may associate it, for better or worse, with prophets and prophecy. In northern Nigeria church people have gotten used to inabi in the New Testament even though many of them don’t know what it is. Basa in Nigeria uses a wild grape-like plant (afwafwa), and Igala has used the same species (achiwebetema) for years. Likewise, two translations in Mali and Burkina Faso use their local name for a wild vine (Lannea microcarpa) for the biblical vine. There is a species (Rhoicissus tridentata) in southern and eastern Africa known as “African grape” (locally called “bobbejaantou”). In such cases translators should write a footnote (or glossary item) stating that the grapes of Bible times were larger and sweeter than the local variety, and that they were cultivated extensively as a source for producing beverages. Other possibilities for transliteration are: vinyola/videra (Portuguese), vitis (Latin), and inab (Arabic).

Fruit of the vine (Hebrew ‘enav; Greek botrus, staphulē): There is some evidence that botrus refers to a bunch of grapes, while staphulē refers to individual grapes. According to Louw and Nida (Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament based on Semantic Domains, 1988), however, both words may refer to individual grapes as well as bunches of grapes. The Hebrew word tirosh is equivalent to the word “vintage” in English, that is, the grape harvest and possibly the first squeezing of the grapes. It is normally used along with the words referring to the olive harvest (yitshar) and grain harvest (dagan).

Vine with clusters of grapes, photo by Ray Pritz

Source: Each According to its Kind: Plants and Trees in the Bible (UBS Helps for Translators)

1st person pronoun referring to God (Japanese)

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Like a number of other East Asian languages, Japanese uses a complex system of honorifics, i.e. a system where a number of different levels of politeness are expressed in language via words, word forms or grammatical constructs. These can range from addressing someone or referring to someone with contempt (very informal) to expressing the highest level of reference (as used in addressing or referring to God) or any number of levels in-between.

One way Japanese shows different degree of politeness is through the choice of a first person singular and plural pronoun (“I” and “we” and its various forms) as shown here in the widely-used Japanese Shinkaiyaku (新改訳) Bible of 2017. The most commonly used watashi/watakushi (私) is typically used when the speaker is humble and asking for help. In these verses, where God / Jesus is referring to himself, watashi is also used but instead of the kanji writing system (私) the syllabary hiragana (わたし) is used to distinguish God from others.

(Source: S. E. Doi, see also S. E. Doi in Journal of Translation, 18/2022, p. 37ff. )

See also pronoun for “God”.

formal 2nd person plural pronoun (Japanese)

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Like a number of other East Asian languages, Japanese uses a complex system of honorifics, i.e. a system where a number of different levels of politeness are expressed in language via words, word forms or grammatical constructs. These can range from addressing someone or referring to someone with contempt (very informal) to expressing the highest level of reference (as used in addressing or referring to God) or any number of levels in-between.

One way Japanese shows different degree of politeness is through the choice of a formal plural suffix to the second person pronoun (“you” and its various forms) as shown here in the widely-used Japanese Shinkaiyaku (新改訳) Bible of 2017. In these verses, anata-gata (あなたがた) is used, combining the second person pronoun anata and the plural suffix -gata to create a formal plural pronoun (“you” [plural] in English).

(Source: S. E. Doi, see also S. E. Doi in Journal of Translation, 18/2022, p. 37ff. )

Translation commentary on John 15:4

And I will remain united in you may also be understood as a comparison “as I remain united with you,” since the Greek conjunction kai may mean either “and” or “as.” If the clause is interpreted as a comparison, then the first clause is most appropriately understood as an imperative, for example, “continue to be a part of me even as I am a part of you” or “continue to be joined to me even as I will remain joined to you.” However, if the second clause is not to be considered a type of comparison, in most languages a conditional relation would be more appropriate, for example, “If you remain joined to me, I will remain joined to you.”

Most translations are literal, maintaining the imagery either of “living in” or “abiding in.” The meaning is essentially that of 6.56 (“to live in fellowship/union with”). Since the spatial concept of one person living in another person may be difficult, it is better to follow Good News Translation and translate “remain united with me.”

By itself is the same expression translated on his own in the son can do nothing on his own of 5.19 (see also 7.18; 16.13). In the same way that the Son can do nothing on his own, so the disciples can do nothing on their own; they must remain united with the Son, as the Son remains united with the Father.

It may not be easy in some languages to translate literally by itself. One equivalent may be “a branch alone cannot bear fruits,” or it may be necessary to indicate clearly what the relation is of the branch to the trunk, for example, “if a branch is not attached to the trunk of a tree, it cannot bear fruit.” This same truth is also expressed in the second part of this second sentence, which may be rendered “a branch can only bear fruit if it remains a part of the vine.” These two parts of the sentence simply reinforce one another.

What may be difficult is the parallel stated in the third sentence of verse 4, since in some languages one cannot speak of a person’s bearing fruit. Such a figure is simply meaningless. One can, however, translate this sentence “In the same way you can’t do anything unless you remain a part of me….”

Quoted with permission from Newman, Barclay M. and Nida, Eugene A. A Handbook on the Gospel of John. (UBS Handbook Series). New York: UBS, 1980. For this and other handbooks for translators see here .

SIL Translator’s Notes on John 15:4

15:4a

Remain in Me: This clause is a second-person plural command. Jesus told his disciples that they should continue to remain in close fellowship with him. To abide (remain/stay) in him means to remain close to him, living life aware of his presence, and constantly depending on him. Try to use an expression that is also suitable for the relationship of a branch to a vine. For example:

Stay joined to me (Contemporary English Version)
-or-
Remain united to me (Good News Translation)

15:4b

and I will remain in you: The Greek expression that the Berean Standard Bible translates as I will remain in you has no verb. It more literally says “and I in you.” There are two ways to interpret this:

(1) It is a reassuring promise. Christ assured his followers that he will remain in them. For example:

Remain united to me, and I will remain united to you. (Good News Translation)

(Berean Standard Bible, New International Version (1984), Good News Translation, New Living Translation (2004), NET Bible, Contemporary English Version, New Century Version, God’s Word)

(2) It is a description. Jesus wanted his followers to remain in him the same way that he remained in them. For example:

Remain in me, as I in you. (New Jerusalem Bible)

(Revised English Bible, New Jerusalem Bible, New Revised Standard Version, NIV2011)

The King James Version, New American Standard Bible, Revised Standard Version, and English Standard Version translate literally, with no verb supplied. It is recommended that you follow interpretation (1) and most English translations. Here are other ways to translate this sentence:

Remain in me, and I will remain in you. (NET Bible)
-or-
Live in me, and I will live in you. (God’s Word)

you: This pronoun is plural and refers to the disciples.

15:4c–d

Just as no branch can bear fruit by itself unless it remains in the vine, neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in Me: This sentence compares the situation of a vine branch and that of a believer. A vine branch depends on the main vine to produce fruit, and the believer depends on Christ to produce fruit. Indicate the comparison in a way that is natural in your language. For example:

A branch cannot produce any fruit by itself. It has to stay attached to the vine. In the same way, you cannot produce fruit unless you live in me. (God’s Word)
-or-
No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me. (New International Version)

15:4c

no branch can bear fruit by itself unless it remains in the vine: This expression indicates that a branch cannot bear (produce) fruit unless it is attached to the main vine. This is the first half of the comparison. Here are other ways to translate this expression:

No branch can bear fruit by itself, but only if it remains united with the vine. (Revised English Bible)
-or-
the branch cannot bear any fruit unless it shares the life of the vine (Phillips’ New Testament in Modern English)

no branch…the vine: There are many branches on one vine, so it may be natural to say:

not any branch…the vine

Articles can be definite or indefinite (the or “a”). Use the articles that are most natural in your language to refer to the branch and the vine.

bear fruit: This phrase means to grow or produce fruit.

fruit: This word is a metaphor. See the note on the same word at 15:2a and how you translated the word there.

by itself: The Greek phrase that the Berean Standard Bible translates as by itself here probably means “on its own” or “apart from the vine.” In some languages it may be natural to leave these words untranslated as they are implied by the following clause.

unless it remains in the vine: This clause states the condition for the branch producing fruit. It must stay attached to the main part of the plant. For example:

it must remain in the vine (New International Version)

15:4d

neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in Me: This is the second part of the comparison. A believer cannot produce fruit unless he continues to draw strength from Christ. A believer producing fruit means that they will produce either good deeds or fruit of the Spirit. Abiding (remaining) in Christ is a necessary condition for producing fruit as a believer. Here are other ways to translate this expression:

Just as a branch cannot bear fruit unless it stays joined to the vine, you cannot produce fruit unless you stay joined to me (Contemporary English Version)
-or-
In the same way, you cannot produce fruit unless you live in me (God’s Word)
-or-
In the same way, you cannot do good things if you do not remain with me. (God’s Word)

General Comment on 15:4c–d

The sentence “Just as no branch can bear fruit by itself unless it remains in the vine, neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in Me” is a negative statement. In some languages it is more natural to express it as a positive statement. For example:

Just as the branch must remain in the vine to bear fruit, so you must remain in me to produce good fruit in your life.
-or-
A grape branch produces fruit only when/as the life of the vine flows through it. In the same way, you can produce good things only as my life flows through you.
-or-
A branch produces fruit only when it shares the life of the vine. Like that, you must share my life in order to produce good fruit in your life.

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