formal 2nd person plural pronoun (Japanese)

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Like a number of other East Asian languages, Japanese uses a complex system of honorifics, i.e. a system where a number of different levels of politeness are expressed in language via words, word forms or grammatical constructs. These can range from addressing someone or referring to someone with contempt (very informal) to expressing the highest level of reference (as used in addressing or referring to God) or any number of levels in-between.

One way Japanese shows different degree of politeness is through the choice of a formal plural suffix to the second person pronoun (“you” and its various forms) as shown here in the widely-used Japanese Shinkaiyaku (新改訳) Bible of 2017. In these verses, anata-gata (あなたがた) is used, combining the second person pronoun anata and the plural suffix -gata to create a formal plural pronoun (“you” [plural] in English).

(Source: S. E. Doi, see also S. E. Doi in Journal of Translation, 18/2022, p. 37ff. )

Translation commentary on 1 Thessalonians 2:14

Verses 14-15 and most of verse 16 (down to always committed) form a single sentence in Greek. Such long sentences in Paul’s letters often indicate high emotive content. Different but equivalent ways of doing this should be found in translating. Other formal indications of emotive content in this sentence include (1) the emphatic you which begins the sentence and is repeated later in verse 14; (2) the use of the word brothers; (3) the rhetorical repetition of and in verse 15 (more prominent in the Greek than in Good News Translation); (4) the piling-up of participles in verses 15-16a; (5) the abruptly contrasting short sentence in 16b. It is also significant, though not a formal feature, that Paul refers here to the Jews as if he were not a Jew. Formal features in Good News Translation which go some way toward conveying the emotive content include (1) the exclamation How displeasing…! and (2) the insertion of even before tried to stop us.

The first words of verse 14 are literally “for you became imitators” (Revised Standard Version). There are two objections, however, to the English word “imitators” in this context. First, it carries the suggestion, foreign to the text, of something not genuine or authentic (see the notes on 1.6). Second, it suggests that the Thessalonians took the initiative, “began to copy” (Moffatt) the churches in Judea. The context makes this meaning most unlikely. The idea is rather that, just as the Thessalonians have listened eagerly to Paul’s message (v. 13), so (Revised Standard Version‘s “for” makes the connection with v. 13 clear) the churches in Thessalonica have become like those in Judea. The point of comparison is not subjective: the courage or faith of Judeans and Thessalonians under pressure, but objective: the fact of undergoing persecution from their fellow countrymen. Their situation is similar: the same things happened to them, as Good News Translation (cf. New English Bible) puts it; they became “companions-in-distress” (Bijbel in Gewone Taal). The kind of suffering they have endured has given them the honorable status of disciples, close followers of the mother churches in Judea.

The order of the expressions the same things happened to you and happened to the churches … in Judea will need to be inverted in many languages so that the prior happening will be mentioned first and the latter happening afterwards, for example, “what happened to the churches of God in Judea also happened to you,” or “what the churches of God in Judea already experienced, you yourselves have also experienced.” In both cases, that of the churches in Judea and the Christians of Thessalonica, these persons were the objects of the persecution. Therefore it may be necessary, in some cases, to place the reference to them in the predicate of a verbal expression, for example, “The way people persecuted the churches of God in Judea is the same way in which people have persecuted you” (“people” referring to an indefinite subject). It is possible, however, to make the churches in Judea and the people in Thessalonica the subject if one uses a verb such as “suffer,” for example, “In the same way that people in the churches of God in Judea suffered, so you have also suffered.”

“The churches of God in Judea which are in Christ Jesus” (Revised Standard Version; cf. Galatians 1.22) illustrates the fact at this early date the word translated “church” had not yet narrowed its meaning to the local Christian community (still less to the meaning of the whole body of Christians, which is not in question here). The word still has many of its secular associations, like the ordinary English word “assembly.” Paul feels the need to specify, first that these communities belong to God, and secondly that, in contrast to Jewish synagogues, they belong to Christ Jesus. Since churches is sometimes translated as “groups of believers” or even “groups of believers in Christ,” churches of God may be rendered as “groups of believers in Christ who belong to God.”

Despite the order Christ Jesus, it is probable that Paul is here, as usual, is thinking of Christ as a name rather than a title. The translation “the Messiah Jesus” should be avoided.

The phrase in Judea is often related directly to an expression for “groups of believers,” for example, “groups in Judea who believe in Christ and belong to God.” The name Judea commonly included the neighboring areas of Galilee and Samaria.

A complication is involved in translating churches of God and the people there who belong to Christ Jesus, since churches of God would indicate some kind of possessive relation and the believers would be spoken of as people who … belong to Christ Jesus. Both possessive relations are true, but stylistically it would be important to express them in different ways, even as is done in Good News Translation.

Countrymen means primarily those belonging to the same ethnic group, rather than those living in the same area. At Thessalonica (cf. Acts 17.5, 13) the Jews had been the first to stir up trouble for the Christians, many if not most of whom were no doubt of Jewish origin themselves. Your own countrymen reflects an accidental similarity in form between Greek and English. In New Testament Greek, own is not emphatic. Some French translations, for example, have simply “your compatriots” (Bible de Jérusalem Bible en français courant), while others have “your own compatriots” (La Sainte Bible: Nouvelle version Segond révisée Le Nouveau Testament. Version Synodale), which is too emphatic. In English, expressions like your own countrymen tend to become set phrases in which own loses much of its usual emphasis. (The reason for this is probably the need to distinguish between “countrymen” in the sense of “compatriots,” and “countrymen” in the sense of “inhabitants of rural areas.”) Perhaps for that reason, New English Bible‘s “your countrymen” seems too weak.

Since the countrymen are really agents who cause the suffering, it is often necessary to shift the relation, for example, “your own countrymen have caused you to suffer in the same way that the Jews caused those in Judea to suffer.” The equivalent of countrymen in many areas of the world is “fellow tribesmen,” “people who are one with you,” or even “people who talk as you do.”

Quoted with permission from Ellingworth, Paul and Nida, Eugene A. A Handbook on Paul’s First Letter to the Thessalonians. (UBS Handbook Series). New York: UBS, 1976. For this and other handbooks for translators see here .

SIL Translator's Notes on 1 Thessalonians 2:14

2:14a

For: Here Paul gave the grounds for what he had just said in 2:13. Commentators do not agree about which part of 2:13 this verse is connected to. There are two possibilities:

(1) It is connected only to 2:13e. Paul was saying that, because the Thessalonians had become imitators of the congregations in Judea, this showed that God’s message was working in them.

(2) It is connected to 2:13b–d. Paul was saying that, because the Thessalonians had become imitators of the congregations in Judea, this showed that they had accepted Paul’s message.

Commentators are equally divided and English versions are ambiguous, either using “for” or no explicit link. The Display follows the first option.

brothers: See the note on 1:4.

you…became imitators: The meaning here is slightly different from that in 1:6a, where the same verb is used. Paul was not saying that the Thessalonians had deliberately imitated the Judean Christians. Instead, in this section Paul wanted to say that the Thessalonians did not intentionally imitate the Judean churches. The Thessalonians had not asked people to persecute them. They had simply obeyed the message that Paul had preached. The result was that people had persecuted them just as the Jews had persecuted the Christians in the Judea. If you use the same expression here as you used in 1:6a, it would give the impression that the Thessalonians had deliberately copied the Judean believers. Therefore, you should use a different expression here. For example:

your experiences have been like those of God’s churches in Christ that are in Judea (New Century Version)

Another way to express it is:

the same things have happened to you as happened to God’s churches in Christ that are in Judea.

the churches of God: Paul was speaking about groups of people who believe in Christ Jesus. As in 1:1b, you should avoid a translation of the word “church” that would make people think of a building.

in Judea: When Paul was writing this letter, Judea was a province in the land of Israel ruled by the Romans.

that are in Christ Jesus: The word in is difficult to translate here. In this context it probably means “those who believe in Christ Jesus” or “those who belong to Christ Jesus” (Good News Translation).

Christ Jesus: Paul sometimes wrote Christ Jesus and sometimes “Jesus Christ.” There is no difference in meaning. However, you should translate what Paul wrote unless this would confuse your readers.

2:14b

In the Greek text this part of the verse begins with hoti, which the Berean Standard Bible has left implicit. This word in Greek has many meanings. In this context there are two possible meanings:

(1) It means that what follows is a restatement of the previous sentence. This would then mean that the way the Thessalonians were like the Judean churches was that they had suffered persecution.

(2) It means “since, for” and means here that, since the Thessalonians were suffering persecution, that suffering showed that they were imitators of the Judean churches (King James Version, Revised Standard Version).

Many English versions follow the Berean Standard Bible and omit any connecting word here. It is recommended that you follow the first option (1), as it makes the best sense in the context.

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