inclusive vs. exclusive pronoun (Rom. 9:10)

Many languages distinguish between inclusive and exclusive first-person plural pronouns (“we”). (Click or tap here to see more details)

The inclusive “we” specifically includes the addressee (“you and I and possibly others”), while the exclusive “we” specifically excludes the addressee (“he/she/they and I, but not you”). This grammatical distinction is called “clusivity.” While Semitic languages such as Hebrew or most Indo-European languages such as Greek or English do not make that distinction, translators of languages with that distinction have to make a choice every time they encounter “we” or a form thereof (in English: “we,” “our,” or “us”).

For this verse, translators typically select the inclusive form (including the reader of the letter).

Source: SIL International Translation Department (1999)

Isaac

The name that is transliterated as “Isaac” in English is signed in Spanish Sign Language and French Sign Language with a sign that is linked to his mother’s laughter when she hears that she will be pregnant with him (referring to Genesis 18:1218:15) and also is the meaning of the Hebrew “Isaac” (Yitschaq — “he laughs”):


“Isaac” in French Sign Language (source: La Bible en langue des signes française )

Learn more on Bible Odyssey: Isaac .

For more information on translations of proper names with sign language see Sign Language Bible Translations Have Something to Say to Hearing Christians .

Rebekah

The Hebrew and Greek that is transliterated as “Rebekah” or “Rebecca” in English is translated in Spanish Sign Language with a sign that signifies “bracelet,” referring to the gift that she receives in Genesis 24:22. (Source: Steve Parkhurst)


“Rebekah” in Spanish Sign Language, source: Sociedad Bíblica de España

For more information on translations of proper names with sign language see Sign Language Bible Translations Have Something to Say to Hearing Christians .

More information on Rebecca .

complete verse (Romans 9:10)

Following are a number of back-translations of Romans 9:10:

  • Uma: “And not only that, in the account of Esau and Yakub more clearly we see how God chooses people to be his portion. Esau and Yakub were twins who were given birth to by Ribka. Their father was just one [i.e., they had the same father], his name was Ishak, our grandfather of long ago.” (Source: Uma Back Translation)
  • Yakan: “Not only this. As for Rebeka, she had two male children, Esaw and Yakub. They had one (the same) father, Isahak, our (excl.) ancestor.” (Source: Yakan Back Translation)
  • Western Bukidnon Manobo: “And that’s not all, because that child of his, Isaac, when he was already old he became the father by means of his wife Rebecca, of two sons who were twins, that is Jacob and Esau.” (Source: Western Bukidnon Manobo Back Translation)
  • Kankanaey: “It’s not only that which shows the way God chooses, because there is also what happened to the twins who were Rebecca’s children who were sired by Isaac our ancestor.” (Source: Kankanaey Back Translation)
  • Tenango Otomi: “The years passed and the son named Isaac grew and then married Rebecca. Rebecca had twin children.” (Source: Tenango Otomi Back Translation)

Translation commentary on Romans 9:10

Paul’s intention in verse 9-13 is to show the absolute freedom of God’s choice.

And this is not all may be equivalent in some languages to a mere conjunctive adverb or phrase, such as “moreover,” “therefore,” or “in addition to this.”

Quoted with permission from Newman, Barclay M. and Nida, Eugene A. A Handbook on Paul’s Letter to the Romans. (UBS Handbook Series). New York: UBS, 1973. For this and other handbooks for translators see here .

SIL Translator’s Notes on Romans 9:10

9:10a

Not only that, but: These words connect to Paul’s statement in 9:6 that God’s word has not failed. He first illustrated that fact by showing that the true descendants of Abraham are the children of the promise rather than of the flesh (9:7–9). This is now another illustration of how his word has not failed. Here are other ways to translate these words:

And not only that, but also (New American Bible, Revised Edition)
-or-
But not that thing/event alone, there is also

9:10b

Rebecca’s children were conceived by one man: The Greek word that the Berean Standard Bible translates as were conceived is literally “had-bed.” It is an idiom that refers to sexual relations. It implies here that Jacob was conceived at the same time as Esau. That single sex act produced two children. Here are other ways to translate this clause:

she had conceived twins by one man (New American Standard Bible)
-or-
she was pregnant with two children by the one man (Phillips’ New Testament in Modern English)
-or-
one man fathered twins with/by Rebekah

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