formal pronoun: Jesus addressing his disciples and common people

Like many languages (but unlike Greek or Hebrew or English), Tuvan uses a formal vs. informal 2nd person pronoun (a familiar vs. a respectful “you”). Unlike other languages that have this feature, however, the translators of the Tuvan Bible have attempted to be very consistent in using the different forms of address in every case a 2nd person pronoun has to be used in the translation of the biblical text.

As Voinov shows in Pronominal Theology in Translating the Gospels (in: The Bible Translator 2002, p. 210ff. ), the choice to use either of the pronouns many times involved theological judgment. While the formal pronoun can signal personal distance or a social/power distance between the speaker and addressee, the informal pronoun can indicate familiarity or social/power equality between speaker and addressee.

Here, Jesus is addressing his disciples, individuals and/or crowds with the formal pronoun, showing respect.

In Nepali translations, Jesus addresses his disciples and other people with the medium honorific pronoun timīlē (तिमीले) or timīlēharū (तिमीलेहरू). His disciples respond with a high honorific pronoun. (Source: Chitra Chhetri in The Bible Translator 2009, p. 73ff. )

In most Dutch translations, Jesus addresses his disciples and common people with the informal pronoun, whereas they address him with the formal form.

See also formal 2nd person plural pronoun (Japanese).

complete verse (John 15:17)

Following are a number of back-translations of John 15:17:

  • Uma: “This is my command to you: Love one another!” (Source: Uma Back Translation)
  • Yakan: “Na, this is what I command you, you shall love each other.'” (Source: Yakan Back Translation)
  • Western Bukidnon Manobo: “This is my command to you, that it is necessary that any of you is big in the breath of every one of you.” (Source: Western Bukidnon Manobo Back Translation)
  • Kankanaey: “This again is my command. You must love-one-another.'” (Source: Kankanaey Back Translation)
  • Tagbanwa: “This is what I am commanding you, that you all value one another always.'” (Source: Tagbanwa Back Translation)
  • Tenango Otomi: “The word I order you now is that you love each other.” (Source: Tenango Otomi Back Translation)

1st person pronoun referring to God (Japanese)

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Like a number of other East Asian languages, Japanese uses a complex system of honorifics, i.e. a system where a number of different levels of politeness are expressed in language via words, word forms or grammatical constructs. These can range from addressing someone or referring to someone with contempt (very informal) to expressing the highest level of reference (as used in addressing or referring to God) or any number of levels in-between.

One way Japanese shows different degree of politeness is through the choice of a first person singular and plural pronoun (“I” and “we” and its various forms) as shown here in the widely-used Japanese Shinkaiyaku (新改訳) Bible of 2017. The most commonly used watashi/watakushi (私) is typically used when the speaker is humble and asking for help. In these verses, where God / Jesus is referring to himself, watashi is also used but instead of the kanji writing system (私) the syllabary hiragana (わたし) is used to distinguish God from others.

(Source: S. E. Doi, see also S. E. Doi in Journal of Translation, 18/2022, p. 37ff. )

See also pronoun for “God”.

formal 2nd person plural pronoun (Japanese)

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Like a number of other East Asian languages, Japanese uses a complex system of honorifics, i.e. a system where a number of different levels of politeness are expressed in language via words, word forms or grammatical constructs. These can range from addressing someone or referring to someone with contempt (very informal) to expressing the highest level of reference (as used in addressing or referring to God) or any number of levels in-between.

One way Japanese shows different degree of politeness is through the choice of a formal plural suffix to the second person pronoun (“you” and its various forms) as shown here in the widely-used Japanese Shinkaiyaku (新改訳) Bible of 2017. In these verses, anata-gata (あなたがた) is used, combining the second person pronoun anata and the plural suffix -gata to create a formal plural pronoun (“you” [plural] in English).

(Source: S. E. Doi, see also S. E. Doi in Journal of Translation, 18/2022, p. 37ff. )

Translation commentary on John 15:17

This verse literally begins “these things I am commanding you that….” For this kind of structure see verses 8,12, and 13.

This verse repeats the theme of love, and so rounds off this section, which began in verse 12 with that theme. In a sense, verse 17 is transitional to the theme of the following section (15.18_16.4): the reason that the world hates the disciples is that they love one another and belong to Jesus.

Some of the complications involved in the reference of this may be avoided by translating verse 17 “Love one another is what I command you to do” or “What I command you is to love one another” or “My command to you is, Love one another.”

Quoted with permission from Newman, Barclay M. and Nida, Eugene A. A Handbook on the Gospel of John. (UBS Handbook Series). New York: UBS, 1980. For this and other handbooks for translators see here .

SIL Translator’s Notes on John 15:17

15:17

This is My command to you: Love one another: The Greek of this verse more literally says, “These things I command you, that you love one another.” There are two ways to interpret this verse:

(1) It is a quote introducer followed by the quotation. It means “I command you (plur.), ‘Love one another.’ For example:

This is my command: Love each other. (New Century Version)

(Berean Standard Bible, New International Version, Revised Standard Version, Revised English Bible, New Jerusalem Bible, God’s Word, New Living Translation (2004), New Century Version, Contemporary English Version, NET Bible, Good News Translation)

(2) It describes what Jesus was doing and then includes a purpose clause. It means “I gave you these commands so that you (plur.) would love one another.” For example:

These things I command you, so that you will love one another. (English Standard Version)

(New Revised Standard Version, English Standard Version)

Two translations (New American Standard Bible, King James Version) can be understood either way. It is recommended that you follow interpretation (1) and most English translations and Bible scholars.

Love one another: This clause is Jesus’ command to all of his disciples, that each of them should love the other disciples.

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