male (pisseth against the wall)

The Hebrew phrase that literally means “urinating against the wall” and likely refers to a pejorative, dog-like meaning of “male” or “man” (see translations with a Hebraic voice [1 Samuel 25:22]) is translated verbatim in the Latin Vulgate, the Greek Septuagint and early English translations (Tyndale, King James / Authorised Version, Douay-Rheims) but in most other languages and versions with a term that simply refers to “man” or “male.”

calamities

The interconfessional Chichewa translation (publ. 1999) uses the ideophone phu (“poof”) to emphasize calamities like death or exposure in these verses. (Source: Wendland 1998, p. 105)

Ideophones are a class of sound symbolic words expressing human sensation that are used as literary devices in many African languages. (Source: Philip Noss)

complete verse (2 Kings 9:8)

Following are a number of back-translations as well as a sample translation for translators of 2 Kings 9:8:

  • Kupsabiny: “All the house of Ahab shall be destroyed those who are males whether servants or free.” (Source: Kupsabiny Back Translation)
  • Newari: “I will destroy the whole dynasty of Ahab. I will destroy every man of his house in Israel, whether they be slaves or free.” (Source: Newari Back Translation)
  • Hiligaynon: “The whole household of Ahab is-to-be-destroyed. I will-kill all the members of his household who are males, both slaves or not.” (Source: Hiligaynon Back Translation)
  • English: “You must kill not only Joram but all of Ahab’s family. I want to get rid of every male in the family, including young ones and old ones.” (Source: Translation for Translators)

1st person pronoun referring to God (Japanese)

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Like a number of other East Asian languages, Japanese uses a complex system of honorifics, i.e. a system where a number of different levels of politeness are expressed in language via words, word forms or grammatical constructs. These can range from addressing someone or referring to someone with contempt (very informal) to expressing the highest level of reference (as used in addressing or referring to God) or any number of levels in-between.

One way Japanese shows different degree of politeness is through the choice of a first person singular and plural pronoun (“I” and “we” and its various forms) as shown here in the widely-used Japanese Shinkaiyaku (新改訳) Bible of 2017. The most commonly used watashi/watakushi (私) is typically used when the speaker is humble and asking for help. In these verses, where God / Jesus is referring to himself, watashi is also used but instead of the kanji writing system (私) the syllabary hiragana (わたし) is used to distinguish God from others.

(Source: S. E. Doi, see also S. E. Doi in Journal of Translation, 18/2022, p. 37ff. )

See also pronoun for “God”.

Translation commentary on 2 Kings 9:8

For the whole house of Ahab shall perish: In the Hebrew text this verse begins with the verb shall perish. In place of this verb, however, the Septuagint (followed by New American Bible and New Jerusalem Bible) reads “and by the hand,” and this is connected to the end of verse 7. The Septuagint is the basis for the New American Bible rendering, which reads as follows for verses 7b-8a: “and the blood of all the other servants of the LORD shed by Jezebel, 8 and by all the rest of the family of Ahab.” Critique Textuelle de l’Ancien Testament, however, gives a {B} rating to the Masoretic Text, which should be followed.

The whole house of Ahab refers, of course, to Ahab’s complete family and all his potential descendants (so Good News Translation). If the previous verse has already been translated in such a way as to indicate that the leader must die (as Good News Translation has done), some may find it more natural to translate here “all the rest of Ahab’s family.”

Once again the future tense in Revised Standard Version here (shall perish) is a way of stating something that must happen. New Century Version translates “All of Ahab’s family must die.”

I will cut off from Ahab every male, bond or free, in Israel: This same expression occurs in 1 Kgs 21.21. See the comments there. In this context the meaning of the Hebrew verb rendered cut off is “kill,” “destroy” (Revised English Bible, New Jerusalem Bible), or “get rid of” (Good News Translation). See the comments on 1 Kgs 11.15-16. For the phrases every male and bond or free, see the comments on 1 Kgs 14.10.

Quoted with permission from Omanson, Roger L. and Ellington, John E. A Handbook on 1-2 Kings, Volume 2. (UBS Helps for Translators). New York: UBS, 2008. For this and other handbooks for translators see here .

SIL Translator’s Notes on 2 Kings 9:8

9:8a The whole house of Ahab will perish,

All of the ⌊male⌋ members of Ahab’s house must die.

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Every person in the family of Ahab must be put to death.

9:8b and I will cut off from Ahab every male,

I Yahweh will use you to destroy every male person in the family of Ahab in Israel.

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For Yahweh has decided to kill every man from the family of Ahab in ⌊the land of⌋ Israel,

9:8c both slave and free, in Israel.

The Hebrew idiom that the Berean Standard Bible translates as “slave and free” is literally “restrained or freed.” Its exact meaning is uncertain. Translators may wish to follow the national version.

⌊This must include⌋ men of every status, dependent or independent.

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whatever their status/position may be.

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