1st person pronoun referring to God (Japanese)

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Like a number of other East Asian languages, Japanese uses a complex system of honorifics, i.e. a system where a number of different levels of politeness are expressed in language via words, word forms or grammatical constructs. These can range from addressing someone or referring to someone with contempt (very informal) to expressing the highest level of reference (as used in addressing or referring to God) or any number of levels in-between.

One way Japanese shows different degree of politeness is through the choice of a first person singular and plural pronoun (“I” and “we” and its various forms) as shown here in the widely-used Japanese Shinkaiyaku (新改訳) Bible of 2017. The most commonly used watashi/watakushi (私) is typically used when the speaker is humble and asking for help. In these verses, where God / Jesus is referring to himself, watashi is also used but instead of the kanji writing system (私) the syllabary hiragana (わたし) is used to distinguish God from others.

(Source: S. E. Doi, see also S. E. Doi in Journal of Translation, 18/2022, p. 37ff. )

See also pronoun for “God”.

Honorary "are" construct denoting God ("say")

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Like a number of other East Asian languages, Japanese uses a complex system of honorifics, i.e. a system where a number of different levels of politeness are expressed in language via words, word forms or grammatical constructs. These can range from addressing someone or referring to someone with contempt (very informal) to expressing the highest level of reference (as used in addressing or referring to God) or any number of levels in-between.

One way Japanese shows different degree of politeness is through the usage of an honorific construction where the morpheme are (され) is affixed on the verb as shown here in the widely-used Japanese Shinkaiyaku (新改訳) Bible of 2017. This is particularly done with verbs that have God as the agent to show a deep sense of reverence. Here, iw-are-ru (言われる) or “say” is used.

(Source: S. E. Doi, see also S. E. Doi in Journal of Translation, 18/2022, p. 37ff. )

Translation commentary on 1 Chronicles 11:2

In times past, even when Saul was king, it was you that led out and brought in Israel: In times past is literally “Also yesterday, also the day before yesterday” (so Chouraqui; similarly La Bible Pléiade). A literal translation of this Hebrew idiom will probably not express the correct meaning in most languages. The expression has a very general meaning referring to an indefinite period of time prior to the time of speaking. In some languages it may be left implicit since the statement when Saul was king already places the events in the past. Knox, however, takes the expression to mean “It is not so long since….”

It was you that led out and brought in Israel may be understood in a general sense, meaning that David took a prominent part in the affairs of the people; but the Hebrew verbs rendered led out and brought in are often used in a military context. Good News Translation probably expresses their meaning here correctly by saying “you led the people of Israel in battle” (similarly New Century Version, Parola Del Signore: La Bibbia in Lingua Corrente). Compare also “you were the one who led Israel on their military campaigns” (New International Version), “you directed the movements of Israel’s army” (Parole de Vie), “you were already at the head of Israel’s military expeditions” (Bible en français courant), and “you were Israel’s commanding general” ( NET Bible). It was David who led Saul’s forces to victory (note the chant comparing Saul and David found in 1 Sam 18.7; 21.11; 29.5). So it will be better to use a verb that indicates leadership and direction in times of combat. And the form of the verb should show that this was something that occurred repeatedly or habitually in the past.

In the first half of this verse the spokesmen of Israel are expressing an idea that is somewhat contrary to normal expectations since King Saul would be expected to be the leader in fighting the enemy. This may be expressed by saying “While Saul was still king over us, you were the one who led us in fighting” or “Even when Saul was king, you were our leader in battle.”

And the LORD your God said to you: Your God should not be understood to mean that David worshiped a different God from the Israelite people who were speaking to David. The parallel passage in 2 Sam 5.2 does not have these words, and they are also lacking here in 1 Chronicles in the ancient Syriac and an important manuscript of the Septuagint. This shorter reading is followed by some translations (so Knoppers).

You shall be shepherd of my people Israel, and you shall be prince over my people Israel: You renders an independent pronoun in Hebrew both times. The presence of this second person singular pronoun twice in the words of God underlines the importance of David’s role. Knoppers expresses the emphasis in the Hebrew as follows: “As for you, you will shepherd my people Israel and you, you will become ruler over Israel.”

Be shepherd translates a single Hebrew verb meaning “do the work of a shepherd.” In Old Testament times kings were frequently said to “shepherd” their people because the image of sheep and shepherds was so familiar to the people in that part of the world (see Ezek 34.1-24; Zech 11.3-17). However, in the receptor language this image may be completely foreign. If this is the case, You shall be shepherd of my people Israel may be translated nonfiguratively by saying “You will be the one who will guide and protect my people Israel.” Good News Translation and Parola Del Signore: La Bibbia in Lingua Corrente similarly use the verb “lead.” It may be possible to keep the imagery by saying “You will care for my people Israel as a shepherd watches over his sheep.”

The Hebrew word translated prince probably means “designated one” or “one proclaimed,” so it may be rendered “chosen leader” or “designated ruler.” Since you shall be prince over my people Israel is a part of a direct quotation from the LORD, it is possible to say “you will be the leader whom I have chosen for my people.”

The direct quotation of what God had previously said to David is embedded within the larger quotation of what the leaders of Israel were saying to him. In some languages God’s words will have to be made indirect. A possible model for the last half of this verse is “and the LORD your God told you that you would be the person to lead his people like a shepherd [leading sheep] and become a prince over his people Israel.”

Quoted with permission from Omanson, Roger L. and Ellington, John E. A Handbook on 1-2 Chronicles, Volume 1. (UBS Helps for Translators). Miami: UBS, 2014. For this and other handbooks for translators see here .

SIL Translator’s Notes on 1 Chronicles 11:2

11:2a Even in times past, while Saul was king,

⌊“Even⌋ in the past, when Saul was still our king,
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⌊They told him⌋ even in the past when Saul ruled, (God’s Word)

11:2b you were the one who led Israel out and brought them back.

it was you who commanded the army of Israel. (New Revised Standard Version)
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he/David had led Israel in their battles.

11:2c And the LORD your God said,

⌊This was because⌋ Yahweh our God had said to you,
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⌊They told David that⌋ Yahweh his God had given him a promise.

11:2d ‘You will shepherd My people Israel,

‘You will lead my people Israel,
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⌊That promise was that⌋ he/David would care for Israel as a shepherd cares for his sheep.

11:2e and you will be ruler over them.’”

and you will be their king.’”
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He/David would become their king.

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