Many languages distinguish between inclusive and exclusive first-person plural pronouns (“we”). (Click or tap here to see more details)
The inclusive “we” specifically includes the addressee (“you and I and possibly others”), while the exclusive “we” specifically excludes the addressee (“he/she/they and I, but not you”). This grammatical distinction is called “clusivity.” While Semitic languages such as Hebrew or most Indo-European languages such as Greek or English do not make that distinction, translators of languages with that distinction have to make a choice every time they encounter “we” or a form thereof (in English: “we,” “our,” or “us”).
For this verse, translators typically select the exclusive form (excluding the addressee).
Source: Velma Pickett and Florence Cowan in Notes on Translation January 1962, p. 1ff.
In Fijian, the paucal exclusive forms neitou and keitou (“of me and a few [two or slight more]”) are used instead. This choice is understandable in view of the introduction found in both letters to the Thessalonians, where the writer Paul indicates clearly that the letters were co-authored by two other colleagues, Silas and Timothy, hence the use of a pronoun referring to three people (“Paul, Silas and Timothy”).
Following are a number of back-translations of 1 Thessalonians 3:3:
Uma: “We ordered him to go, so that there will be no-one whose faith is shaken because of the persecution that is striking you. For we (incl.) do know, relatives, that the persecution which is striking us (incl.) is none other than the intention of God beforehand for us (incl.) Kristen people.” (Source: Uma Back Translation)
Yakan: “We (excl.) don’t want that because of your difficulties anyone of you would turn-his-back-on/reject the true teaching. You knew beforehand that we (incl.) all have to come across/experience difficulties.” (Source: Yakan Back Translation)
Western Bukidnon Manobo: “so that none of you might become confused because of people’s persecution of you. You know that as for us (incl.) believers, God has destined affliction for us.” (Source: Western Bukidnon Manobo Back Translation)
Kankanaey: “so that none of you would go-astray on-account-of that aforementioned being-hardshipped of yours. You admittedly know of-course that God has designated that we be hardshipped,” (Source: Kankanaey Back Translation)
Tagbanwa: “so that even though you are being caused hardship, no-one will be led astray and drop/give-up his believing/obeying. For you know that as for these caused-hardships/persecutions, they are indeed God’s determined-plan for us.” (Source: Tagbanwa Back Translation)
Tenango Otomi: “We did not want that your hearts be discouraged from being persecuted. You know already that it is necessary that you suffer from persecution.” (Source: Tenango Otomi Back Translation)
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Like a number of other East Asian languages, Japanese uses a complex system of honorifics, i.e. a system where a number of different levels of politeness are expressed in language via words, word forms or grammatical constructs. These can range from addressing someone or referring to someone with contempt (very informal) to expressing the highest level of reference (as used in addressing or referring to God) or any number of levels in-between.
One way Japanese shows different degree of politeness is through the choice of a formal plural suffix to the second person pronoun (“you” and its various forms) as shown here in the widely-used Japanese Shinkaiyaku (新改訳) Bible of 2017. In these verses, anata-gata (あなたがた) is used, combining the second person pronoun anata and the plural suffix -gata to create a formal plural pronoun (“you” [plural] in English).
The word translated turn back is not used anywhere else in the New Testament. Of its possible meanings in New Testament or later times, the most appropriate here is “disturbed” (Best), “shaken” (Translator’s New TestamentBarclay), “unsettled” (Jerusalem Bible). Die Bibel im heutigen Deutsch interestingly transfers “your faith” from verse 2: “He was to strengthen and encourage you, so that no one should let himself be turned aside from the faith.”
In some languages there may be no meaningful connection between “turning back” and “faith” or “trusting.” Therefore it may be necessary to say “so that none of you would give up believing,” or “… would cease trusting Christ.”
These persecutions (already mentioned in 1.6 and 2.14) must often be rendered as “the way in which you have suffered persecution,” or “the ways in which people have caused you to suffer.”
You yourselves know. Good News Translation follows the Greek closely here in emphasizing you by the addition of yourselves; but the emphasis really attaches to the whole phrase; there is no contrast with any other group of people. Moffatt transfers the emphasis to know: “You know that well” (cf. KnoxDie Bibel im heutigen Deutsch). Barclay (cf. Translator’s New Testament) emphasizes both elements: “You yourselves well know.” Bijbel in Gewone Taal, like Moffatt, emphasizes the whole phrase by transferring it to the end of the sentence: “that you know.”
Such persecutions are part of God’s will for us. Good News Translation and Bible en français courant make explicit a reference to God which is implicit in the text, which could be translated almost literally “that is why we have been put here.” Here, as in many places, the passive implies an activity of God. References to “our appointed lot” (New English Bible, cf. Revised Standard Version), like the use of the verb “destined,” wrongly suggest an impersonal fate, which is far from Paul’s way of thinking. The context shows that here “we” includes Paul, his companions, and the Thessalonians. In the next verse, however, the Thessalonians are excluded from “we.”
The rendering of such persecutions are part of God’s will for us must be done with care. Otherwise the reader may think that God himself had purposely planned or even organized the persecutions against the Christians in Thessalonica. In some languages it may be necessary to say “God has permitted these persecutions to come to us,” or “God has allowed these people to cause us to suffer.” It is sometimes possible to speak of “God’s will” as being “God’s plan,” for example, “God’s plan for us includes our being caused to suffer.”
Quoted with permission from Ellingworth, Paul and Nida, Eugene A. A Handbook on Paul’s First Letter to the Thessalonians. (UBS Handbook Series). New York: UBS, 1976. For this and other handbooks for translators see here .
so that none of you would be shaken: The Greek verb sainō, which the Berean Standard Bible translates as shaken, has two possible meanings:
(1) It means “disturbed, unsettled”.
(Berean Standard Bible, New International Version (2011 Revision), NET Bible, Contemporary English Version, New Century Version, New Living Translation (2004 Revision), God’s Word, Revised Standard Version, Revised English Bible, New Jerusalem Bible, King James Version)
(2) It means “deceived.” The Good News Translation has interpreted this to mean “turn back.”
Although the second meaning “deceive” is the most common meaning in Greek for this verb, in this context the first option (1) makes better sense and has the best support from commentaries and English versions, so it is recommended that you follow it in your translation.
by these trials: This phrase refers to the persecutions that the Thessalonian believers were suffering. The same Greek word was translated “suffering” in 1:6c.
3:3b
For you know: The Greek text say literally, “For you yourselves know.” These words show that Paul was again reminding the Thessalonians of what they already knew because he had taught it to them while he was in Thessalonica.
we are destined for this: The Greek verb keimai, which the Berean Standard Bible has translated as are destined, has many meanings. In this context it means “appointed, destined, ordained.” Paul did not say who had destined people for the trials of 3:3a, but he apparently meant that it was God. Make sure the word you choose to translate this verb does not give the impression that God is a dictator who, without good reason, likes to make people suffer. Here is another way to translate this clause:
such persecutions are part of God’s will for us (Good News Translation)
we: Here this refers to all Christians, not just Paul and his companions.
this: The word this refers to the “trials” in 3:3a.
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