complete verse (Ephesians 5:4)

Following are a number of back-translations of Ephesians 5:4:

  • Uma: “It is also not appropriate if we use-profanity or speak words that have no purpose or say [word of] playing-around [i.e., jokes, jesting] that are not appropriate to be heard by the ears of others. Rather, use our lips to say thank you to God.” (Source: Uma Back Translation)
  • Yakan: “And it is not fitting-for/worthy-of you to use obscene language or to talk indiscriminately or to make bad jokes. Instead this is good for you to do, give thanks to God.” (Source: Yakan Back Translation)
  • Western Bukidnon Manobo: “Don’t you use filthy, ugly words which have no value; but rather, always give great thanks to God.” (Source: Western Bukidnon Manobo Back Translation)
  • Kankanaey: “Neither are foolish talk that has no purpose and dirty stories concerning women appropriate for you, because what you ought to do is that you will thank God.” (Source: Kankanaey Back Translation)
  • Tagbanwa: “Like that, too, disgusting and shameful conversation or anger-provocing-teasing, and words which have no usefulness. That is not fitting for you, but rather what your mouths should always open-for is, giving thanks to God.” (Source: Tagbanwa Back Translation)
  • Tenango Otomi: “Do not speak any bad words. Do not speak the words which do not have any benefit. Because these words are not right for you to speak. The word which is proper for you to do is that you always thank God.” (Source: Tenango Otomi Back Translation)

Translation commentary on Ephesians 5:4

All three nouns used in this verse (Revised Standard Version “filthiness, silly talk, levity”) occur only here in the New Testament. The first one could be understood to refer to conduct, “indecent behavior” (so Abbott, Salmond, Murray), but most likely it is a reference to conversation, as are the following two nouns. It has its equivalent in Colossians 3.8 obscene talk; it refers to shameful, shameless talk of every kind, but probably dealing with sexual themes in a vulgar way; New English Bible, Translator’s New Testament “coarse”; Jerusalem Bible “coarseness.”

The second Greek noun is literally “foolish talking”; Good News Translation takes this “foolishness” not in the sense of levity or silliness as such, but in the biblical sense of “the fool” as the person who disregards God. Murray defines the word as “conversation … which is coarse and outwardly repulsive” and quotes Plutarch’s definition of it as “the kind of talk that comes from a man when he is drunk.” Murray goes on to say that this may be no more than inane talk, but adds: “But ‘the fool’ in the Wisdom literature has a darker side.” But no other translation consulted gives it this specific a sense of “profanity”; most have “silly” or “foolish” or “stupid” talking.

The third Greek noun originally had a favorable meaning of “ready wit,” “pleasantry,” but it acquired a connotation of suggestive talk which employs euphemisms and double meanings. So Barth “ribald talk”; New International Version “coarse joking”; Translator’s New Testament “suggestive language”; Abbott “licentious speech.” So it means not just jokes as such (as Revised Standard Version “levity” suggests) but dirty jokes.

In almost all languages there are plenty of terms which one may use to speak of obscene or vulgar language, since such types of speech are universal. Obscene language may be described in some languages as “dirty language.” But in some instances it may be called “vulva language” (a reference to the female genital organs). It would be wrong, however, to interpret the Good News Translation use of profane as simply being in contrast with sacred. This is not secular language but “bad talk.” Sometimes one may use an expression such as “how fools talk.” Finally the term vulgar may be rendered as “jokes about sex” or “jokes about the genitals.”

The expression Nor is it fitting is synonymous with it is not right in verse 3, and it may be rendered as “You should not.”

Give thanks to God translates the Greek noun for “thanksgiving” (see the related verb “to give thanks” in 1.16). This is the kind of language that is fitting for Christians. As early as Origen and Jerome (see the quotation in Robinson) the question has arisen: Why should “thanksgiving, praise” (to God) be the kind of language Christians should use, in opposition to vulgarity and obscenity? One would expect something like “gracious, beautiful, noble” talk, or even “truthful, honest, fair” speaking. But commentators, in one way or the other, show why thanksgiving is fitting here. For similar injunctions to be thankful see 5.20 and Colossians 3.15, 17.

In speaking of “giving thanks” it is frequently necessary to indicate the content of such thanks or at least the reason for the thanks. Making such information specific in this context may be particularly significant in that it provides a basis for contrast from the first part of verse 4. One may, for example, translate you should give thanks to God as “you should thank God for what he has done for you,” presumably in freeing the believer from such bad behavior.

Quoted with permission from Bratcher, Robert C. and Nida, Eugene A. A Handbook on Paul’s Letter to the Ephesians. (UBS Handbook Series). New York: UBS, 1982. For this and other handbooks for translators see here .

SIL Translator’s Notes on Ephesians 5:4

5:4a–b

Paul said that when Christians talk, they should not use any shameful talk. He uses three terms for shameful talk: obscenity, foolish talk and coarse joking.

5:4a

Nor: The NET Bible translates Nor as “neither.”

should there be obscenity: The word obscenity refers to talking of sexual matters or other taboo subjects in a shameful, crude way.

Here are some other ways to translate this word:

obscene stories (New Living Translation (2004))
-or-
dirty stories (God’s Word)

5:4b

foolish talk: The term foolish talk means saying things that are of no good use. This does not mean talking like a person who has not been to school or who is not intelligent.

Here are some other ways to translate this term:

empty talk
-or-
flippant talk
-or-
disrespectful talk

In the OT, a fool was a person who ignored God or did not believe in God. So foolish talk may mean talking disrespectfully or lightly about serious things, making fun of God and other important things.

or crude joking: The term crude joking means “vulgar jokes,” which usually refers to jokes about sex.

In most languages there are terms for using vulgar and shameful language. You may have expressions like:

saying vulgar words
-or-
laughing about things that bring shame
-or-
telling stories that are not fit for people’s ears

General Comment on 5:4a–b

In some languages, two terms or even one generic term may be sufficient to express all the ideas in the three terms “obscenity, foolish talking and coarse joking.” For example:

don’t even talk about such things; they are no fit subjects for Christians to talk about (Phillips’ New Testament in Modern English)

5:4c

which are out of character: The Greek phrase that the Berean Standard Bible translates as out of character means “not right,” or “not fitting.” It is the opposite of “proper” in 5:3a.

5:4d

but rather thanksgiving: The clause but rather thanksgiving means “instead, give thanks to God” or “instead ⌊of doing those things⌋, thank God ⌊for that which he has done for you⌋.”

Here are some other ways to translate this clause:

Instead, let there be thankfulness to God. (New Living Translation (2004))
-or-
Rather you should give thanks to God. (Good News Translation)

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