complete verse (Ecclesiastes 1:10)

Following are a number of back-translations as well as a sample translation for translators of Ecclesiastes 1:10:

  • Kupsabiny: “A person might say,
    ‘Look at this new thing.’
    But no, that thing has already happened before.
    It existed even before we appeared.” (Source: Kupsabiny Back Translation)
  • Newari: “Is there any matter about which it can even be said,
    "Look and behold, this is a new work"?
    It has been here for a long time.
    It has existed long before our time.” (Source: Newari Back Translation)
  • Hiligaynon: “Is there a thing that you (sing.) can-say that is new again? But that is already there in the time-past, even before we (incl.) were born.” (Source: Hiligaynon Back Translation)
  • English: “Sometimes people say, ‘Look at this! This is something new !’
    But it has existed previously;
    it existed before we were born.” (Source: Translation for Translators)

Translation commentary on Ecclesiastes 1:10

This verse restates in another way the ideas already given in verse 9. For this reason it can be interpreted as adding force to the argument that there is nothing new in this world.

Is there a thing of which it is said…?: many versions do as Revised Standard Version does and ask the question “Is there…?” but in fact the Hebrew uses a statement here. It begins “There is something…,” thus contrasting with verse 9 “there is nothing….” In terms of style, a translation that preserves the contrast between these two opening phrases may express Qoheleth’s point more clearly than the question form.

The Hebrew word davar, “thing,” was plural and translated as “words” in the Introductory Title (verse 1). Here it is best thought of as “thing” or “matter” rather than “word.”

Of which it is said: this passive voice or impersonal form may be a problem in some languages, and indeed the original Hebrew does not use either of these. No subject is mentioned for the verb “say,” so we must supply one. The clause can be understood as a supposition, that is, a statement of what might possibly be the case, so a subject like “people” or “someone” is suitable. This gives a possible translation, “There are things of which people may [do] say….” Here the verb “say” may also mean “think,” as it is not important for a person to actually put this idea into words. In this case we can give a translation “There are some things that people think.”

Translation can be as follows: “Suppose there is something that a person thinks…” or “People may say [about a thing] ….”

The imperative form See, this is new calls our attention. The object of the imperative “Look” is simply this. Hence a possible translation is “Look at this!” The next clause is literally “it is new.” Dividing the call into two sentences makes the translation more animated and will help the reader to see that verse 10 presents a challenging illustration of verse 9c. It recognizes that people often think they have found something new, but for Qoheleth “newness” is a meaningless idea. It cannot apply to what God has already made. People may think they have found something new, but it is only new to them.

If we wish to use a single sentence for a more precise and probably more powerful expression, we can simply say here “People may say, ‘Here is something new,’ ” or “Suppose there is something that a person thinks is new.”

It has been already, in the ages before us: what some people may think of as new has been in existence for a long time. The Hebrew term ʿolam (in the ages) is translated elsewhere in the Old Testament as “eternity.” This term does not usually refer to an unending period of time, however, but rather to a very long one or “an age.” In this verse the word appears as a plural, probably to emphasize that what exists now has existed from the earliest times. A possible translation is “it has always been in existence.”

Before us describes the word ages. New Jerusalem Bible makes this clear by saying “in ages that went by before us.” However, Good News Translation and the Contemporary English Version (Contemporary English Version) take before us to mean “long before we were born.” Though not an exact translation of the Hebrew, it expresses Qoheleth’s idea well. If desired, this phrase can occur at the beginning rather than at the end of the clause: “Long before we were born, it was already here.”

Quoted with permission from Ogden, Graham S. and Zogbo, Lynell. A Handbook on the Book of Ecclesiates. (UBS Helps for Translators). New York: UBS, 1997. For this and other handbooks for translators see here .

SIL Translator’s Notes on Ecclesiastes 1:10

1:10a Is there a case where one can say, “Look, this is new”?

Can you say that anything is new? ⌊No! There is nothing new.⌋
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“Look. This is original,” someone ⌊might⌋ say.
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There is nothing of which someone could say, “Look! This is something new!”

1:10b It has already existed in the ages before us.

It has already been here long before us. (God’s Word)
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But ⌊it is not unique at all.⌋ It existed long before we (incl.) were ⌊born⌋ .
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⌊No, the same kinds of⌋ things were here a long time before us.

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Commentaire sur la traduction de l'Ecclésiaste 1.10

Par sa répétition du mot חָדָשׁ ḥâdâš, « nouveau », ce verset est étroitement lié au verset précédent. Cependant plusieurs versions y voient le début d’une partie en prose, peut-être à cause de la citation qui se trouve ici. Cependant, en vue de l’aspect assez poétique du Ecc 1.11, il vaudrait mieux garder le format poétique jusqu’à la fin de Ecc 1.11.

S’il est une chose dont on puisse dire : « Voyez, c’est nouveau, cela ! » : Qohéleth utilise encore une fois le mot דָּבָר dâvâr, qui ailleurs a le sens de « mot », « parole », ou « affaire ». Voir Ecc 1.8. Une traduction comme « quelque chose » sera plus large, ne limitant pas ces propos aux choses matérielles de ce monde. La Bible en français courant propose « S’il y a quelque chose dont nous disons… » Plusieurs versions proposent une condition ici (S’il est une chose…), mais en hébreu il s’agit d’une question, litt. « y a-t-il une chose dont on dit “Vois ceci…” ». On pourrait presque parler de question rhétorique, mais cette fois-ci il y a une réponse qui suit. En lisant le texte à haute voix, les traducteurs pourront choisir entre le formuler comme une question, une condition ou une affirmation (voir Parole de Vie).

La citation suit, litt. « Voici ceci, nouveau lui ». Les traducteurs adopteront un langage naturel dans leur langue, par exemple, Voyez, c’est nouveau, cela ! ou « Regarde, c’est nouveau ! » (Nouvelle Bible Segond). Apparemment la citation s’arrête ici et les traducteurs devraient utiliser la ponctuation qui convient. Si la question rhétorique est retenue, elle s’arrête aussi ici.

– cela existe déjà depuis les siècles qui nous ont précédés : il s’agit de la réponse à la question. Mais implicitement la réponse est « Non, il n’y a pas de nouvelle chose (dans ce monde) ». Certaines versions suggèrent « Pourtant » (Parole de Vie), « en réalité » (Bible en français courant), « en fait » (La Bible du Semeur).

cela existe déjà… : cela renvoie à דָּבָר dâvâr, « la chose », « l’affaire », dont il est question. En hébreu le mot déjà figure en tête de phrase où il est accentué, litt. « déjà il a été depuis toujours ce qui il a été avant nous ». La traduction de la Traduction œcuménique de la Bible ne montre pas que le verbe היה hâyâh, « être », figure deux fois ici. En fait, ce même verbe revient sept fois dans ce bref passage ( Ecc 1.9). Les traducteurs devraient trouver le verbe qui convient dans leur langue. Bien que certaines versions mettent le verbe exister, d’autres gardent « être » : « elle était déjà là bien avant nous » (Nouvelle Bible Segond), « Cela a déjà été aux siècles qui furent avant nous » (Pléiade).

L’expression לְעֹלָמִים leʿôlâmîm, depuis les siècles, a un sens large dans l’Ancien Testament. Ici la forme au pluriel exprime une très longue période : « depuis toujours », « depuis fort longtemps », etc.

qui nous ont précédés est litt. « …qui a été avant nous ». Le nous pourrait renvoyer à l’audience cible, les Israélites, mais il est clair que, dans ce contexte, il renvoie à l’humanité en général.

Visiblement la Parole de Vie fait l’effort de garder la poésie :
On peut dire de quelque chose :
Voyez, c’est nouveau
Pourtant, cela existait longtemps,
longtemps avant nous.

Source: Zogbo, Lynell. L’Ecclésiaste – Manuel de traduction – Commentaire linguistique et exégétique de la Bible. Alliance biblique universelle, 2021.