complete verse (Ecclesiastes 2:2)

Following are a number of back-translations as well as a sample translation for translators of Ecclesiastes 2:2:

  • Kupsabiny: “I also realized that laughter is stupidness and I know that enjoyment is empty.” (Source: Kupsabiny Back Translation)
  • Newari: “I thought like this, ‘laughing is an insane matter. Then what will I get by having great pleasure?’” (Source: Newari Back Translation)
  • Hiligaynon: “Laughing and being-happy are only foolishness and have no value.” (Source: Hiligaynon Back Translation)
  • English: “So I said to myself, ‘It is foolish to laugh all the time, and continually doing what I enjoy does not seem to bring any lasting benefit.’” (Source: Translation for Translators)

Translation commentary on Ecclesiastes 2:2

Understanding the structure of the verse will help our translation. It speaks about two attitudes to life, each represented by a prepositional phrase, “concerning laughter,” and “concerning pleasure.” These stand at the head of each half of the verse. The one verb I said serves both halves. Such a structure reminds us that both halves of the verse say basically the same thing.

I said of laughter is literally “Concerning laughter, I said.” The expression I said here points to a conclusion Qoheleth is making: “I saw that,” “I found out that,” “I discovered.” By drawing the object to the front of each clause, the author draws special attention to it. Laughter is a term Qoheleth uses several times, usually with a negative sense (see 7.3). As laughter is generally our response to an amusing situation, we can recognize that Qoheleth is not testing laughter itself, but rather a light-hearted attitude to life. We must not lose sight of the question Qoheleth is asking as he examines these experiences. He wants to know what will provide the “lasting benefit.” He concludes that these two things, failure to take life seriously and seeking material success, cannot give lasting benefit, even though both are perfectly good and proper in themselves.

It is mad: note the discussion in 1.17 about the translation of “madness.” We need a word that suggests it is unable to give “lasting benefit.”

For translation: “Failure to take life seriously is dangerous” or “If we are too light-hearted we are being stupid.”

Of pleasure: again the noun is brought forward in the prepositional phrase heading the sentence. See the discussion in verse 1 for the meaning of “pleasure.”

Qoheleth varies his expression in the second half of the verse, using a rhetorical question to express the conclusion he reached. He asked himself What use is it? or “What did it accomplish?” We may wish to preserve the question form, or if a negative statement is more natural, we can say “It accomplished nothing either.” Again we remind ourselves that the background for the saying is the search for “lasting benefit,” so the meaning is that pleasure could not give such benefit.

For translation:

• I saw that it is foolish to be too light-hearted. What does pleasure accomplish anyway?

Quoted with permission from Ogden, Graham S. and Zogbo, Lynell. A Handbook on the Book of Ecclesiates. (UBS Helps for Translators). New York: UBS, 1997. For this and other handbooks for translators see here .

SIL Translator’s Notes on Ecclesiastes 2:2

2:2a I said of laughter, “It is folly,”

⌊So⌋ I say that joking/playing ⌊all the time⌋ is stupid.
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I decided that it was silly to laugh ⌊all the time⌋

2:2b and of pleasure, “What does it accomplish?”

I asked myself, “What does pleasure accomplish?” ⌊Nothing.⌋
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and I enjoyed myself but it was worthless.
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If I only try to please myself, it does not really help me. (EEB)

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Commentaire sur la traduction de l'Ecclésiaste 2.2

Qohéleth présente ces conclusions concernant la joie sous forme de deux lignes parallèles :
Du rire, j’ai dit : « C’est fou ! »
Et de la joie : « Qu’est-ce que cela fait ? »

Les deux mots rire et joie sont précédés en hébreu par la préposition לְ le, qu’on pourrait rendre par « concernant », « quant à », etc.

rire, en hébreu, שְׂחוֹק śeḥôq, est un phénomène universel. Les traducteurs devraient décider s’ils veulent en parler sous forme verbale ou nominale. Notons que la traduction de la Parole de Vie, « gaité » semble trop spécifique.

j’ai dit introduit une citation directe de Qohéleth. Il est sous-entendu dans le deuxième vers. L’ordre des mots reflètent l’ordre en hébreu, mais dans certaines langues, cette expression sera mieux placée au début de la phrase : « J’ai dit du rire » (Revised Standard Version : « I said of laughter »). D’autres versions omettent ces mots (Bible en français courant, Parole de Vie, Good News Bible), mais ceci n’est pas conseillé.

« C’est fou ! » : il s’agit d’une citation directe des propos de Qohéleth. En hébreu il y a un seul mot fou, mais le traducteur utilisera une forme qui est naturelle dans sa langue. Pour le terme מְהוֹלָל mehôlâl, « fou », voir Ecc 1.17. L’idée est certainement que s’amuser n’apporte pas grand chose dans cette vie.

Et de la joie : Pour joie, voir Ecc 2.1. Les mots j’ai dit sont sous-entendus ici et pourront être explicités : « et concernant la joie, j’ai dit… »

Qu’est-ce que cela fait ? est une question rhétorique (litt. « quoi cela ? ») qui souligne le fait que la poursuite de la joie n’est pas la bonne réponse aux questions de la vie. Les traducteurs pourront formuler cette idée d’une manière naturelle dans leur langue, par exemple, « À quoi bon » (Nouvelle Bible Segond), « À quoi cela m’avance-t-il ? » (La Bible du Semeur). Au lieu de poser une question, certaines versions préfèrent présenter deux affirmations : « Le rire est insensé et la joie ne mène à rien (Bible en français courant). » Aux traducteurs de voir quelle forme conviendrait mieux dans leur langue.

Source: Zogbo, Lynell. L’Ecclésiaste – Manuel de traduction – Commentaire linguistique et exégétique de la Bible. Alliance biblique universelle, 2021.