4:13a when we are slandered, we answer gently.
When people say bad things about us (excl.) we say good things about them.
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When people lie about us (excl.) we respond with kind, friendly words.
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We (excl.) speak gently to those who slander us.
4:13b Up to this moment we have become the scum of the earth, the refuse of the world.
Even now people treat us (excl.) as if we (excl.) were rubbish/garbage that they throw away, or like dirt/scum that they scrape off a pot.
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Right up to this day/hour people still do not respect us (excl.). They say we (excl.) are worthless.
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